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    Re:Comment on nhklein
    by Anonymous on Wednesday June 25 2003, @11:41AM (#11851)
    This is an interesting analysis, but it misses a couple of points. Firstly, it assumes ICANN controls, and continues to control the root. Of course it controls the root, I hear you say. Well, actually the root nameserver operators control the root, and they have assiduously avoided contracting with ICANN. And there are 4 or 5 (from memory) who US government funded, who have made it clear they will accept ICANN's root zonefile so long as the DoC tells them to, and not a moment longer. And the DOC's contract with ICANN has a number of milestones, one of which is coming to a satisfactory agreement with the ccTLDs. The ccTLD managers have consistently pointed out that the IANA function (maintaining the root zone file) is a very simple registry function that anyone could run. If ICANN performed sufficiently badly, the DoC could support a redelegation. And it is widely rumoured that the RIRs, the ccTLD operators, and certain VA based companies have made contigency plans should this happen, and discussed it with the DoC. As far as a legal analysis goes, well, I'm not a legal theorist, but I'd say that means "not California law perhaps, but US law all the same". Secondly, it neglects to mention the economic effect of the ccTLDs. They are slated for a large contribution in the ICANN 2.0 budget - somewhat perversely given the domain names they operate cost ICANN nothing - unlikely gTLD domains where there is an incremental cost. ICANN is relatively poor in comparisom to several ccTLDs. Lawyers, especially in California, cost money. And Mr Twomey has to be fed & watered, of course. And thirdly, the original analysis seemed to miss another point. ICANN has said that ccTLDs not under contract will not have to join the ccNSO, and their root zone file entries will /still/ be maintained. Indeed various ccTLDs have (for a long while - see the RIPE proposals) *offered* to pay ICANN to maintain their root zone file entries (only) in return for some service commitment - an offer ICANN has consistently refused, prefering its own contract. Further, it has implied that even those few ccTLDs under contract will have a choice as to whether to join the ccNSO or not. So, given most ccTLDs are not under contract to ICANN, and thus pay ICANN nothing (but might conceivably pay for services), what on earth would be the point of signing up to a ccNSO which binds their policy? They'd be paying to constrain their own actions! Sure, the ccNSO /could/ be a useful forum for consensus policy making, but ICANN has dictated (or has tried to dictate) that it will not be that. Consensus non-binding policy can be made anywhere, with a far more lightweight process, as noone is concerned about membership, and voting rights. Hence it would also be cheaper (see CENTR, WWTLD etc.). Fourthly, no reasonable ccTLD has an interest in disrupting ICANN from its own reasonable behaviour, least of all causing a "split of the root". But if that happened, the split wouldn't necessarily be (as advertised) ICANN vs. ccTLDs. Into which ship would the gTLDs and the RIRs jump?
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