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    Wishful thinking?
    by KonstantinosKomaitis on Wednesday March 26 2003, @06:28AM (#11378)
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    It looks as if ICANN is trying to achieve something and prove that there is always room for change. The evaluation team that will be created seems as a good beginning and a process that may result to more transparency. No way though, ICANN's dictionary doesn't know what transparence stands for. "The Board would not intrude in the evaluation process itself; its options would be to accept or to reject the results of the evaluation." So if the Board is in the position to reject the results of the evaluation, why should there be an evaluation in the first place?If the evaluation is to be rejected, its outcomes will never be known and will never be posted on ICANN's site. And why should they? The last thing that ICANN wants is another polemic to its functions and to the way they operate the DNS.
    However and to make another point, what is really strange in my opinion is why in every meeting of ICANN - and there are a lot - nothing is discussed about the UDRP? Do they think that the system works? Well, if they do they are obviously blind; but most probably it is not that they are unaware of the whole situation, it is just that they don't want to dissapoint those for whose the system was created, trademark holders.
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    Re:Wishful thinking?
    by KarlAuerbach on Wednesday March 26 2003, @08:57AM (#11380)
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    Under applicable law the Board of Directors, as a collective body, has ultimate control over ICANN's acts.

    Under applicable law, ICANN's Board of Directors is free to override any recommendation, any evaluation. In fact, Directors are obligated to exercise their independent judgement and not simply be mindless marionettes.

    ICANN's Board, through its history of continued rejections of Requests for Reconsideration, its history of ignoring recommendations from the DNSO, and its interpretation of its own bylaws, has made it clear that the Board will not be bound even by its own by-laws.

    I saw the report of the IP Address RIRs - I hope they recognize that if one admits that ICANN has a role in IP address allocations via any of its agreements with the US gov't that ICANN's board has the ultimate authority to allocate and revoke IP addresses no matter what the RIRs might think.

    ICANN's history is one of arbitrary and capricious behaviour, unguided and unlimited by principles or rules.

    Is ICANN likely to change its spots? Is the moon made of green cheese? Do pigs fly?
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      Re:Wishful thinking?
      by KonstantinosKomaitis on Thursday March 27 2003, @03:10AM (#11385)
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      The truth is that as long as the Internet community or governments around the world silently support ICANN, then ICANN is unlikely to change its spots.
      Even though the GAC is supposed to make things better and ensure more involvement in the decision-making process, it looks as if it is wishful thinking to believe that ICANN will finally meet its obligations towards the simple Internet user.
      ICANN is depending on the fact that there are no existing alternatives, and since this is the case, ICANN can act as it pleases. If it were to split ICANN in many pieces or let's say to be rumours that the US Goverment is about to seize ICANN and create instead another authority, then ICANN's actions would be definatelly improved.
      ICANN acts more like a chameleon changing its colours to suite its environment, protecting itself from its enemies and critics. Sometimes ICANN presents itself as a private entity that shields the Internet community from national control and on other occasions it chooses to act more like a governmental body that co-operates with the GAC.
      This metamorphosis is neither desirable nor sustainable. So if ICANN is for some the answer to structuring and governing the Internet, then maybe the moon is made of green cheese.
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