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    lots of sympathy for this proposal
    by tbyfield (reversethis-{moc.xinap} {ta} {dleifybt}) on Friday March 21 2003, @07:03AM (#11357)
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    i almost fell out of my chair when, at the recent 'ICANN, ccTLD, and the Legacy Root: Domain Name Lawmaking and Governance in the New Millennium' conference at cardozo law school, former/erstwhile ICANN staffer andrew mclaughlin chimed in with something to the effect that 'there's a lot of sympathy within ICANN for this kind of approach.' indeed: that's why the current thinking involves a top-down taxonomic approach to doling out sponsored TLDs.

    cheers,
    t
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    Facts almost right, but conclusions are horrendous
    by SimonHiggs on Friday March 21 2003, @05:34PM (#11360)
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    It's interesting to see RFC1591 used in such an um... unique and novel way.

    It's no surprise to see:

    1) the Postel IANA applications ignored yet again
    2) priority given to Stuart Lynn's whim over the applicants in 2000
    3) a .dns TLD with "the capacity to solve many of the current naming problems associated with DNS by
    creating permanent and stable object identifiers" which completely misses the point of DNS and creates an artificial and arbitrary control over language use - the only good idea in the explanation is .ISBN which was missed entirely
    4) auctions and illegal lotteries which have been proven failures in the past
    5) "lesser developing countries" not using existing cctld processes, but rather being rationed by lottery
    6) eBay used as a best case delegation model!!!
    7) separating the name from the registry harming technical innovation which completely ignores emerging peer-to-peer solutions and advances in distributed databases not to mention that this is a critical requirement in decentralizing DNS like the IP/router registries

    You've got your facts somewhat correct, but the conclusions and execution is a total disaster waiting to happen.

    The bottom line is that this plan is another terrible process geared to favor ICANN insiders.
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    Have a lottery for slots, not an auction for names
    by KarlAuerbach on Friday March 21 2003, @08:36PM (#11364)
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    First of all, the things that ought to be up for grabs are "slots" in the root zone file - the winner getting to pick whatever name string he/she/it wants (modulo prior use by someone else) *after* winning.

    Second, it ought to be a lottery - a fixed price for a ticket - the internet isn't just a playground for the rich. There are major social interests that don't happen to be endowed with cubic sums of money. Even with a lottery the rich can buy lots of tickets in order to improve their chances, but, unlike an auction, at least a lottery leaves the little folks with a chance.

    And of course we won't mention the word "lottery" in those places where it isn't allowed.
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    Re:auctioning
    by SimonHiggs on Friday March 21 2003, @05:54PM (#11361)
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    Back in 1996, auctioning was debated and rejected overwhelmingly. This is hardly an original idea.

    Anyway the original IAHC says it's a Really Bad Idea, and it's one of the few things they got right:

    "With regard to the lottery mechanism, Mr Crocker conceded that the selection of registrars, all of whom must first meet an objective set of business and technical criteria, may not be ideal, but said this mechanism was finally favoured by the Committee because it was fair and equitable. An auction giving the right to become a registrar to the highest bidder would unfairly favour wealthy companies, said Mr Crocker, while selection of registrars by the Committee or another body would have been fraught with the possibility of legal complications."

    http://www.itu.int/newsarchive/projects/dns-meet/D NS-PressNote.html [itu.int]
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