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    Re:My reply from the GA list
    by jo-uk@rcn.com on Tuesday February 25 2003, @10:32AM (#11243)
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    Vittorio,
    Public voting powers and broad ways to participate would be a vast improvement on what we have now, a cartel that is taking users to the cleaners. However, my point is not about replacing ICANN, it's about poor leveraging in current negotiations. ICANN can do more than is being offered, but it needs to be pressed home.

    Meanwhile, the ALAC door is wide open for allegations of nepotism, which is the price ICANN pays for appointing representatives, rather than electing them, and for back room dealing, rather than open and transparent processes. It is not for me to prove, it is for the ALAC to disprove.

    You wrote:-
    So, if ICANN manages the At Large directly, it is trying to take control of it, and if it does not, it is not controlling it enough.
    What are you proposing then?

    Answer: No, that is not what I said, it is your opinion, not mine.

    The At Large's best interests are best served by repeating worldwide elections, to establish RALOs if that's the way ICANN wants it to work. In return, it seems a reasonable request to eneter into an MoU with ICANN, whereby the RALO's would give up their autonomy. However, if no meaningful help is forthcoming from ICANN, then why would the At Large want to give up it's autonomy? This is not a trivial issue, it's a deal breaker and while unresolved, the natural evolution for the At Large is, and will continue to be as a group of heterarchies, without any central leader, and operating outside of ICANN. That's not a bad situation to be in. Losing autonomy and getting nothing in return is worse.

    You tell me what each At Large group will get from an MoU that a) is worth giving up autonomy and b) it can't live without?

    Regards,
    Joanna
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    Re:My reply from the GA list by jo-uk@rcn.com
    Re:My reply from the GA list
    by vbertola on Thursday February 27 2003, @12:25AM (#11254)
    User #3435 Info | http://bertola.eu.org/
    For readers - the thread is continuing on the GA list, so please point your browser to the GA archives [dnso.org].

    Some of the next posts:
    (mine) [dnso.org]
    (Karl Auerbach) [dnso.org]
    (mine) [dnso.org]

    --vb. (Vittorio Bertola)

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