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    Roles versus people
    by KarlAuerbach on Saturday February 22 2003, @03:09PM (#11217)
    User #3243 Info | http://www.cavebear.com/
    One of the aspects of ICANN that has been visible to me as a board member and that has, unfortunately, been invisible to the public is the sense of the individual board members as people of quality.

    For the most part, the ICANN directors are inteligent, concerned, and motivated people. None of them got where they are in life without a goodly deal of ability to think and to act.

    One of the sad stories of ICANN is that the qualities of the individuals who compromise the board have been submerged into ICANN's collective entity and have been colored by an institutional "it's either us or them" siege mentality.

    Amadeau's message - which I read to be that ICANN needs a change in people in order to break the institutional inertia that has caused ICANN's collective corporate personality - strikes me as one that is very perceptive and very important.

    But a change of people on the board of directors, while necessary, isn't sufficient. Much of ICANN's institutional personality is carried in the momentum of its "staff". If there is value in changing the faces on the board, there is even more value in changing the faces on the "staff", particularly at the upper layers. Merely changing the president is not sufficient.

    In addition, much of ICANN's hostility to the public has been fueled by certain of ICANN's contractors - such as, but not limited to, its law firm. If there is to be a change in ICANN, ICANN needs to obtain services from providers who are more interested in ICANN and ICANN's obligations to the public benefit than in invoices and being wannabe Iagos. [field-of-themes.com]
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    by Anonymous on Saturday February 22 2003, @04:32PM (#11218)
    Abril y Abryl, Esther Dyson, and those of the same ilk are gutless. It's easy to criticize on the way out ... too bad Abril y Abril didn't have the common decency to call a spade a spade when it mattered, when bigtime decisions were being made. You remember those decisions, don't you? The one's where gutless, scared, worthless, short-sighted Directors such as Abril y Abril made decisions the results of which harshly and negatively affected the domain buying public. You remember Abril y Abril, riding in the same Network Solutions limo (to the Verisign w/caviar parties) as the scumbags he now distances himself from? You remember Abril y Abril, sitting on his hands when ICANN suckered anyone with $50,000 into naively thinking they had a chance to run a new registry? He knew all along Ken Stubbs and Afilias would be handed a gTLD, and did nothing after documentation was provided that Afilias and it's registrar partners were infested with theives. He did nothing, but now he's a big critic. Good riddance.
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    • Cowardice by WIPOorgUK Sunday February 23 2003, @01:38AM
    • Re:Baloney by tbyfield Monday February 24 2003, @08:29AM
      • Re:Baloney by Anonymous Monday February 24 2003, @09:23AM
        • Re:Baloney by tbyfield Tuesday February 25 2003, @09:05AM
          • Re:Baloney by Anonymous Wednesday February 26 2003, @11:48AM
    Yeah ... Heard It Before
    by Anonymous on Sunday February 23 2003, @05:08AM (#11221)
    Departing Directors like to distance themselves from the rotten apples. You know what? Abril y Abril is one of the rotten apples.
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    by Anonymous on Sunday February 23 2003, @05:12AM (#11222)
    This assh-le Abril y Abril stood silent while the board-squatters gave the middle finger to concerned netizens. Now he's full of criticism? What a spineless schmuck!
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    Touton's Puppet
    by Anonymous on Sunday February 23 2003, @05:15AM (#11223)
    This puppet makes me want to puke. Now he admits Touton and Sims were pulling his strings all along. Thanks for nothing Abril y Abril.
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      Re:Touton's Puppet
      by KarlAuerbach on Sunday February 23 2003, @03:50PM (#11229)
      User #3243 Info | http://www.cavebear.com/
      This is an odd thread of discussion - this will be my third comment that could be construed as being somewhat defensive of ICANN.

      As for Louis Touton - He's a powerful personality, he is smart both about law and technology, he works extremely hard, and he has his ideas about where the net should go. And it has been my experience that if he is given free-reign that he will use it. However, it is also been my experience that Louis is one those rare people among ICANN's senior staff who understands that the Board of Directors, if they ever were to chose to actually direct ICANN, is supreme within ICANN.

      Despite our disagreements, and those disagreements have been major and occassionaly rather heated, I would suggest that Louis has acted professionally and honorably, and if given clear limits by the Board, I believe that he would conform to those limits.

      There are Iago's who are pulling ICANN's strings. But I would not put Louis T. among them.
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    At least the name...
    by Anonymous on Sunday February 23 2003, @01:31PM (#11226)
    Hi Ted. I know that following ICANN and getting all the facts and, more importantly, the reasons for those facts is difficult. But well, getting the names just right shouldn't be that difficult... My family name is Abril i Abril, not with a "y" between the Abrils. And, btw, everybody, everywhere, just call me Amadeu (and not Amadeau, Karl ;-)) Well, that's it for now.... Amadeu
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