Inside ICANNWatch  
Submit Story
Lost Password
Site Messages
Top 10 Lists
Latest Comments
Search by topic

Our Mission
ICANN for Beginners
About Us
How To Use This Site
Slash Tech Info
Link to Us
Write to Us

  Useful ICANN sites  
  • ICANN itself
  • Bret Fausett's ICANN Blog
  • Internet Governance Project
  • UN Working Group on Internet Governance
  • Karl Auerbach web site
  • Müller-Maguhn home
  • UDRPinfo.com;
  • UDRPlaw.net;
  • CircleID;
  • LatinoamerICANN Project
  • ICB Tollfree News

  •   At Large Membership and Civil Society Participation in ICANN  
  • icannatlarge.com;
  • Noncommercial Users Constituency of ICANN
  • NAIS Project
  • ICANN At Large Study Committee Final Report
  • ICANN (non)Members page
  • ICANN Membership Election site

  • ICANN-Related Reading
    Browse ICANNWatch by Subject

    Ted Byfied
    - ICANN: Defending Our Precious Bodily Fluids
    - Ushering in Banality
    - ICANN! No U CANN't!
    - roving_reporter
    - DNS: A Short History and a Short Future

    David Farber
    - Overcoming ICANN (PFIR statement)

    A. Michael Froomkin
    - When We Say US™, We Mean It!
    - ICANN 2.0: Meet The New Boss
    - Habermas@ discourse.net: Toward a Critical Theory of Cyberspace
    - ICANN and Anti-Trust (with Mark Lemley)
    - Wrong Turn in Cyberspace: Using ICANN to Route Around the APA & the Constitution (html)
    - Form and Substance in Cyberspace
    - ICANN's "Uniform Dispute Resolution Policy"-- Causes and (Partial) Cures

    Milton Mueller
    - Ruling the Root
    - Success by Default: A New Profile of Domain Name Trademark Disputes under ICANN's UDRP
    - Dancing the Quango: ICANN as International Regulatory Regime
    - Goverments and Country Names: ICANN's Transformation into an Intergovernmental Regime
    - Competing DNS Roots: Creative Destruction or Just Plain Destruction?
    - Rough Justice: A Statistical Assessment of the UDRP
    - ICANN and Internet Governance

    David Post
    - Governing Cyberspace, or Where is James Madison When We Need Him?
    - The 'Unsettled Paradox': The Internet, the State, and the Consent of the Governed

    Jonathan Weinberg
    - Sitefinder and Internet Governance
    - ICANN, Internet Stability, and New Top Level Domains
    - Geeks and Greeks
    - ICANN and the Problem of Legitimacy

    Highlights of the ICANNWatch Archive
    (June 1999 - March 2001)

    This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.
    ICANN Asks Singapore to Delay .sg TM Attempt | Log in/Create an Account | Top | 3 comments | Search Discussion
    Click this button to post a comment to this story
    The options below will change how the comments display
    Check box to change your default comment view
    The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
    Michael Got The Story Wrong
    by jberryhill on Sunday February 02 2003, @12:32AM (#11076)
    User #3013 Info
    Unfortunately, the headline and the story both distort the reality here.

    What ICANN has filed is a request for an extension of time to oppose the registration. They have not requested a "delay" in the proceedings, nor have they filed an opposition itself.

    Under the trademark laws of many countries, trademark applications are published for a fixed period of time during which third parties may file an opposition. Many of these countries allow a potential opposer to file a request for an extension of time to file an opposition. Such a request is merely an indication that the party *might* file an opposition, and they may still be making up their mind.

    Karl seems incensed that the Board wasn't consulted. Well that is the precise issue at hand here. In order to consider the issue and to consult with the appropriate folks may have otherwise allowed the opposition deadline to pass. I suppose if nothing had been done, we would have Karl complaining that the Board hadn't been consulted.

    Filing this request for an extension to oppose is merely a mechanism to allow more time to make a decision. It is not a statement that a decision has been made. Acting in a manner consistent with keeping ICANN's legal options open as long as possible is the responsible and appropriate thing for ICANN management to do in the absence of any direction from the board or an identified consensus in the community.

    The spectacle of ICANN - the handmaiden of IP expansionism - opposing an attempt of someone to claim IP is certainly amusing.

    And, as always, if you enjoyed the trademark folks, just wait until the patent folks start showing up.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]
    Re:Michael Got The Story Wrong
    by Mueller ({mueller} {at} {syr.edu}) on Sunday February 02 2003, @05:14PM (#11077)
    User #2901 Info | http://istweb.syr.edu/~mueller/
    Berryhill wrote: "The spectacle of ICANN - the handmaiden of IP expansionism - opposing an attempt of someone to claim IP is certainly amusing." It's fully consistent, actually. If TLD registries have property rights in their strings, then ICANN's power is limited, and so is its ability to deliver the goods at the SLD level for the IPR interests. That's why I, an OPPONENT of IPR maximalism in DNS, fully support the Singapore application and hope it succeeds. Property rights decentralized power. ICANN wants a completely centralized property system in which every user of a domain name string is a licensed "user" who occupies the resource at the whims of the ultimate, real owner of the domain name space: ICANN.
    [ Reply to This | Parent ]

    Search ICANNWatch.org:

    Privacy Policy: We will not knowingly give out your personal data -- other than identifying your postings in the way you direct by setting your configuration options -- without a court order. All logos and trademarks in this site are property of their respective owner. The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 by ICANNWatch.Org. This web site was made with Slashcode, a web portal system written in perl. Slashcode is Free Software released under the GNU/GPL license.
    You can syndicate our headlines in .rdf, .rss, or .xml. Domain registration services donated by DomainRegistry.com