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    Re:This Puts An End To Lien...
    by RFassett on Monday January 20 2003, @07:49PM (#10994)
    User #3226 Info | http://www.enum.info
    "were able to say we're not going to transfer your name until you pay your bill"

    I thought the DNS model was one where fees are paid to domain name retailers in advance of the "service" by the end user. Or are some Nominet 'members' allowing extended credit terms? Unless provided credit terms, I am not sure I like the sound of "lien of contract" when fees are paid 12 months (or more) in advance by consumers. It's not like if I transfer my domain in month 10 that I should expect a refund of 2 months from the losing registrar or that this registrar will transfer these $ to the gaining registrar on my behalf. Or am I missing something here in the logic?

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    Re:This Puts An End To Lien... by RFassett
    Re:This Puts An End To Lien...
    by CapnB on Monday January 20 2003, @10:04PM (#10995)
    User #3567 Info | http://www.joel.co.uk/
    Nominet members get credit terms, yes.

    So let's look at it this way:

    1. $member registers domain name on behalf of $registrant at a cost of £30 (for sake of argument).
    2. $registrant doesn't pay member.
    3. $member has to pay Nominet at invoice time, so pays them their fee.
    4. $registrant then decides to go elsewhere without paying $member, because $member2 is cheaper. $registrant pays Nominet £15 to move the domain name.
    5. $member is now out of pocket since they've already paid Nominet, and can't do a thing about it.
    That's the way it can work now.

    However, to play devil's advocate, it can also go like this:

    1. $member registers domain name on behalf of $registrant at a cost of £30 (for sake of argument).
    2. $member doesn't pay Nominet.
    3. $registrant has their domain name suspended.
    4. $member is nasty, and won't transfer the domain out. $registrant goes to Nominet who say 'we're not moving it, it hasn't been paid for'.
    5. $registrant says 'I'll pay!', upon which Nominet says 'OK, please pay $astronomical_fee'.
      ~ or ~
      $registrant finds another member who will take on the domain and the debt at $members_fee - which isn't that hard to find to be honest, I've done it myself.

    AFAIK, Nominet don't take payment-in-advance for member-registered domains.

    Being both member and registrant in my life, I prefer situation 2. While I agree it's not Nominet's position to withhold service if it's been paid for, it's now tipped the balance in the favour of the more evil registrants who can find this loophole.

    CTO, CentralNic Ltd. [centralnic.com]

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