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    Sensible (and Tactical) Thoughts on New TLDs from the Business Constituency | Log in/Create an Account | Top | 16 comments | Search Discussion
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    Acid test?
    by PeterBarron (pebarron@hotmail.com) on Tuesday January 07 2003, @10:58AM (#10907)
    User #3240 Info | http://www.icannwatch.org/
    You say that an acid test might be IOD's registry. How so? Would IOD be allowed to propose the name as well as itself as registry? Or would this plan allow a qualified registry to attempt to claim .WEB, as Afilias tried to do?

    How does this plan deal with existing applicants who have already paid and selected their TLDs?

    ++Peter
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    Seperating Names and Registries
    by dpf (dpf@ihug.co.nz) on Tuesday January 07 2003, @11:28AM (#10909)
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    I very much endorse the thinking in this section. In an ideal world no registry in my opinion would "own" a TLD and the TLD Manager would regularly tender out for the operation of a registry for that name. That way you would get competition and innovation as registries compete to "host" TLDs.

    There would be issues around who would make the decision to tender for the open gTLDs which may not have a natural organisation to act as manager. You could argue ICANN itself - because that is the role it originally had for com, net and org before it gifted two of them back to Verisign for pretty much life.

    To some degree .org has gone down these lines. ISOC is the TLD Manager and it has effectively select Affilias to run the registry (even though it is through PIR). I presume ISOC/PIR has the power to choose to use another backend provider after a certain period of time.

    DPF
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    Business wants more regulation?
    by Anonymous on Wednesday January 08 2003, @08:56AM (#10922)
    With brain-dead ideas like this coming out of the business community it is no wonder that the economy is in the toilet.

    It is fine if a group of DNS providers want to adopt some of these ideas - and try to sell the resulting product. We call that called "innovation". And sometimes it wins (Microsoft) and sometimes it looses (Digital Research). But it is not fine if these ideas are imposed on all who wish to try out new approaches.

    Where would the Internet be if these so-called business experts had had their say in 1985? We'd be stuck with 1960's technology - ISDN - and teletypes or 3270's.
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    Not so sensible
    by Mueller (muellerNO@SPAMsyr.edu) on Friday January 10 2003, @11:56AM (#10947)
    User #2901 Info | http://istweb.syr.edu/~mueller/

    I am amazed that my colleague Michael has been taken in by the BC snake oil regarding name selection by registries. Let's try this in another industry: The US government will decide what kind of car models get built, and then we will select among a group of "qualified manufacturers" to build them. The FCC will decide what type of radio station formats will be offered and select among a group of "qualified broadcasters" to operate them. Gak! Or should I say GAC?!! See any problem related to innovation here? More to the point, who is going to enter the registry business if they don't know what names, if any, they are going to service?

    Furthermore, the rationale that this will facilitate consumer protection in the event of registry failure is so transparently a nonsequitur that I'm surprised no one has commented. If names can be transferred from one registry to another (via escrow) then they can be transferred regardless of who selected the names!

    This whole proposal is simply a ploy to make registries into toothless patsies who are completely under the thumb of the ICANN regulator. They will have no property rights or equity in the names they service, no incentive to innovate, etc.
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