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    Re: ICANN Explores Killing At-Large Elections
    by joannalane on Saturday February 23 2002, @05:03PM (#5027)
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    It's unlike you to miss some key points. Look at the evidence from the DoC point of view. In the absence of tangible efforts at self-formation of the At Large, (meaning proper public representation in the ICANN process), and in the absence of worldwide cooperation, (meaning agreement with the CCs), the MoU will not be renewed in September, resulting in a US government take over and formation of a successor agency in association with the present GAC. In short, ICANN is on the point of collapse.

    One option open to the Board is to resign en masse voluntarily and ask the DoC to take over. It is a very real possibility. If you think that accounts of Joe Sims recent travelogue and the Board EGM taking place in Washington this weekend are not indicative of desperate measures, then you are very much mistaken. The climate has changed.

    The question that we all need to answer for ourselves is this; Do we trust government to represent the public interest in the ICANN process in place of an At Large?

    If your answer is yes, then sit back, do nothing and watch the take over in action. If your answer is no, then the best chance for the At large is to pledge your support to the new ALSC initiative being forged by Pindar Wong on the At Large forum list, then pray that the Board will endorse the At Large elections.

    The middle ground, which is for the Board to appoint At Large Directors without an election, will not fly. The DoC wants proper representation of the public interest, not a band aid.

    Perhaps it easier for those of us that have not been in the battle trenches from the very beginning to fully appreciate the fresh opportunities that are now emerging for new leaders, but allow me to thank you for helping to bring this about. It could not have happened without you. You will not be forgotten, whatever happens next.

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    Re: ICANN Explores Killing At-Large Elections
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Saturday February 23 2002, @11:12PM (#5031)
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    I agree with Joanna to the extent that I see major fundamental changes coming, with a much increased role for the GAC, or governments in general. I can't see the board resigning en masse, they will be more subtle than that. Joe Sims and Louis Touton have been the puppetmasters throughout the whole ICANN exercise, the thing to watch is whether they or their handpicked successors keep control of the process. My bet is that they will. Governments want an increased role but they have to trust someone who claims to know what they're doing.

    I also think Pindar Wong's offer is too little, too late. As Michael accurately points out, the results last time weren't pretty, and that was when there was less on the line. The power brokers appear to have sufficient agents provocateur waiting in the wings that they can afford to return one to the mothership.

    I have been willing, if not content, to vote in GA and @large elections and otherwise snipe from the sidelines (with a tip of the porkpie hat to ICANNWatch) to date, but if things go down in Accra or thereabouts like I think they're going to, then the implicit contract has been broken. Do these folks really think they can put the internet jini back in its bottle? Such hubris deserves the reckoning it is most likely to receive. -g

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    Re: ICANN Explores Killing At-Large Elections
    by michael (froomkin@lawUNSPAM.tm) on Sunday February 24 2002, @07:22AM (#5036)
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    In the absence of tangible efforts at self-formation of the At Large, (meaning proper public representation in the ICANN process), and in the absence of worldwide cooperation, (meaning agreement with the CCs), the MOU will not be renewed in September...
    Why not? One constant in the last 3 years has been that DoC does not want the DNS tar baby to too close. This far exceeds its fairly bounded commitment to the At Large (e.g. no one from DoC squawked when At Large went from 9 to 6.) Why do you think that will change? I know that there are a lot of people right now who say DoC has changed, that the Bush folks see ICANN as a Clinton/Magaziner project that went wrong, but is there evidence for that view or is it just wishful thinking? I certainly don't know which it is, do you?

    As for the merits of takeover, I personally don't fear a US government takeover nearly as much as another procedural backdoor system where governments would be represented directly on the Board. If the US has to run this directly, it has enormous discretion, but must follow fairly explicit rules of due process and APA rulemaking. That doesn't mean I'll like what they'll do, but it does mean that we'll see it coming and have a chance to be heard about it. Comparing that to a non-treaty system where governments appoint Board members who do what they like in secret, and I'll take the bureaucratic option any day.

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