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    Re: DNSO GA Votes to Ask Commerce to Re-bid ICANN'
    by fnord (reversethis-{moc.oohay} {ta} {k2yorg}) on Thursday May 23 2002, @11:59PM (#6489)
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    tlr writes:
    I said that referring to a proposed voting mode which was not used in the end of the day - and by which, by the way, the second motion would have been the one considered the "winner" of this vote.
    If it wasn't used at the end of the day, why do you now point out that the second Motion received more positive and less negative votes than the first, more or less declaring it the winner? As both options received clear majorities, quite a number of voters had to have voted yes to both, so a positive vote for the second can hardly be taken as a vote against the first. -g

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    Liars and liars, great and small
    by Anonymous on Friday May 24 2002, @01:00AM (#6491)
    "Anyway, congratulations to your newly improved skills in lying by omission."

    Really, since you seem to see these things so clearly, I must have missed your protest against the often repeated message that ICANN made an enormous step forward regarding the At Large in Accra. Newly again on at-large.org they tried this rhetorics. Where do I read you calling the Board liars?
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    Re: DNSO GA Votes to Ask Commerce to Re-bid ICANN'
    by Anonymous on Friday May 24 2002, @01:47AM (#6492)
    Clear majority? It's great seeing the results of a vote that saw less than 1/3 of the ga voters casting a ballot as a "majority" of anything. Not that this is important, as you are right, the majority of voters on both motions favored the motions, but in an institution that emphasises "consensus" and not "votes", holding this up as "the will of [insert favorite group here] is ridiculous.
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    Re: DNSO GA Votes to Ask Commerce to Re-bid ICANN'
    by Anonymous on Friday May 24 2002, @02:25AM (#6493)

    please re-read my second paragraph, and please notice as well that i provided a link to the vote results announcement. that's a subtle way of saying: check the facts yourself.

    i wrote about the one motion because that's the one i think is most significant. the second motion was, in my view, not only much less significant but also deeply intertwingled with the slapstick style with which you, as GA chair, oversaw the whole affair.

    as you may remember, you denounced the first motion and obstructed in numerous ways. but then -- after the GA alternate chair introduced the second motion -- you suddenly became much more amenable to a vote. at the time, the GA alt chair wrote: "My personal opinion is that the two are indeed conflicting motions." and you yourself wrote:

    Since the objective of this election is to have one resolution in the end, I have added the rule that the resolution which receives most "yes" votes is the one we consider the ultimate outcome of the vote.

    If you folks want to go without this addition, the question would have to be: "Which resolution do you want to have?" The three mutually exclusive answers would be: James' resolution, Alexander's resolution, no resolution at all.

    but rather than get into all this byzantiniana, i thought i'd merely doff my hat at it by citing the charges and countercharges hurled back and forth.

    but since you've called me a 'liar' for omitting explicit mention your effort to torpedo jamie's motion, i guess i'll explicitly mention it.

    it would be churlish of me to downgrade my assessment of your work because you called me a name, but there's one remark i'll modify. in my article, i cited the fact that jamie's motion passed as redounding to your credit. perhaps it would have been more to the point to say that it redounds to the credit of the GA members who pursued a course they believe in despite your vigorous efforts.

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