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    Verisign, Inc. sending deceptive and predatory domain expiration notices | Log in/Create an Account | Top | 18 comments | Search Discussion
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    Re: Verisign, Inc. sending deceptive and predator
    by fnord ({groy2k} {at} {yahoo.com}) on Saturday March 23 2002, @05:17AM (#5519)
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    In none of the referenced material does Go Daddy make the claim that they are the only target. That was my musing (and I've never had any connection to Go Daddy) based on the fact that I hadn't seen reports from other registrars or their registrants regarding this, and I receive registrant email from four registrars and haven't been notified of it, nor have I received anything from VeriSign. Go Daddy at least has made the issue public. Have you contacted your registrants regarding it? It now seems it is more widespread than just Go Daddy registrants, but we, or at least I, still don't know if all non-VeriSign registrants were targeted. It is equally wrong in any case.

    As for Go Daddy being a significant threat, SnapNames State of the Domain Report says Go Daddy led in net new registrations in the 3rd and 4th quarters of 2001, and in January 2002. Of course most all registrars led VeriSign in this metric, and that is a threat to VeriSign.

    Regarding the WLS, as the price has yet to be finalized I don't know where you get the $70M/year figure. It isn't quite a done deal yet. Despite widespread opposition to the WLS (and I've slammed it here a few times, and am probably not done yet) ICANN might still not allow it to go ahead (yes, you read that right). -g

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    Re: Verisign, Inc. sending deceptive and predator by fnord
    Re: Verisign, Inc. sending deceptive and predator
    by fnord ({groy2k} {at} {yahoo.com}) on Saturday March 23 2002, @03:42PM (#5524)
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    Anon writes:
    You are dreaming if you think Verisign is not going forward with the WLS.
    I haven't said any such thing. I am well aware that VeriSign intends to go ahead. What will be interesting is what ICANN does with this request. VeriSign maintains it doesn't need consensus (while fudging the numbers to make it look as though they have majority approval amongst registrars). If ICANN brings in the one month grace period for expiring names that will take away much of the demand for expiring names, and much of the money VeriSign would make through the WLS. If ICANN allows the WLS to go ahead at all, but particularily in advance of initiating the grace period, then it will be just another example of ICANN's inability to increase competition and lessen monopoly behavior. -g
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    Re: Verisign, Inc. sending deceptive and predator
    by fnord ({groy2k} {at} {yahoo.com}) on Tuesday March 26 2002, @07:24AM (#5559)
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    As the saying goes, two wrongs don't make a right, and if you are correct in your assertion, neither do more than two. And if you are correct, you'd think someone would have published the full-header email, or scans if it is snailmail. Can you point to any?

    I don't doubt that some other registrars have, or are, doing the same thing, but I haven't seen any evidence of it and I have a few domains registered with various registrars. I certainly haven't seen evidence anywhere that Go Daddy in particular, or all these other registrars (as you put it) in general, are doing the same thing. I think such actions by any registrar should be reported to the FTC (because ICANN is nominally in the US and has clear responsibility for allowing this to go on) and if both/either the registrant or registrar is located outside the US, to their relevant national equivalent(s).

    As I say, others doing the same thing doesn't make it right. I wouldn't have bothered responding to such fallacious reasoning, but might as well, seeing as I wanted to report that politechbot has more on this, as does geek.com. I guess VeriSign figures it can take a writedown on good will if it is already less than zero. -g

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