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    A Tale of Two Policies: Competing Roots in ICANN and in ENUM | Log in/Create an Account | Top | 5 comments | Search Discussion
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    Re: A Tale of Two Policies: Competing Roots in ICA
    by joppenheimer on Tuesday September 04 2001, @06:20AM (#2191)
    User #5 Info | http://JudithOppenheimer.com
    You say "The final position was a true product of "consensus" - i.e., it was acceptable to all parties."

    Not really. AT&T and Verizon both stated, quite vehemently, that they will do whatever it takes to counter what they see as harmful in the US position (or in the case of Verizon, what's missing from the US position - number and service integrity, specifically denied inclusion in the US position because of the FCC-regulating-VoIP ramifications. The US Delegation displayed a severe case of throw-out-the-baby-with-the-bathwater syndrome.)

    I don't disagree with your conclusion, as processes go. But were VeriSign (and SAIC, both on NetNumber's board of directors) not the dissenters I don't know that the "minority opinion" would have received as much attention. This was clear on the last SGA teleconference, the delegation audibly showing deference to the VeriSign representative during the meeting.

    That said, the hypocrisy of VeriSign pining for an open market and unrestrained competition makes me queasy.

    Its worth remembering that we're talking telephone numbers in, domain names out. Let's not forget which "unaccountable amateurs" regulate domain names.
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    Re: A Tale of Two Policies: Competing Roots in ICA
    by Mueller ({mueller} {at} {syr.edu}) on Tuesday September 04 2001, @04:29PM (#2213)
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    Neither Verisign nor Verizon (& AT&T) were entirely happy with the US position. But they both accepted it. That is exactly the contrast I am trying to draw. Within ICANN, despite its claims to be based on consensus, such an outcome never would have happened. The world would have been divided into good guys (telcos and IETF) and bad guys (Verisign), and the "impartial regulator" would have sided with "the good guys" (i.e., their personal friends).


    I don't think the FCC's intention to avoid regulating VoIP was the primary motivator of the US position.
    Fear of the ITU, plus, there are simply a lot reasons to let a thousand flowers bloom in this case, even while recognizing, as the US position does, that a coordinated approach may well win out and may well have advantages.


    Deference to Verisign? For every one person who shows deference, I'll give you three who consider them the evil empire. True deference to Verisign in this case would have consisted of completely rejecting the IETF-Telco-RIPE alliance and the Golden Tree concept. Indeed, Verisign was so frustrated with the outcome that they basically dropped out of the process for a while. Any way you look at this outcome, it's Verisign 1, its opponents 2.

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