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    Monetizing Domain Name Front Running
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Friday January 11 2008, @01:17PM (#16971)
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    Michael writes:
    While it's good they [NetSol] are not trying to monetize the domains, it still seems to make price shopping much harder for the consumer.
    I would say that they are monetizing the domains, and making it almost impossible for the consumer.

    First, once you register with NSI you cannot transfer to another registrar for 60 days. Other than those familiar with the domain industry, how many businesses/individuals are going to bother, or remember, two months later to transfer a domain. So NetSol gets another customer, perhaps for more than one year, particularily when the transfer would be by an average consumer to save about $20/year.

    Second, DNFR is not a new problem as some news coverage states. I have had it happen myself on three occasions going back about 5 years and I don't register many domains (I don't recall the registrars). Various blogs/websites have had numerous tales going back a similar period, so some of those doing the front running must by now be quite sophisticated. If they are that sophisticated what is to stop them from having tools that register the name the second it comes off the four day hold (domain tasters already have them)? Not many average consumers would have such tools, so again it is the average consumer that takes the hit.

    The end result is at least that NetSol vacuums up consumers and at worst that NetSol's supposed solution won't protect the name anyway. Typical NetSol. And of course ICANN will typically spin its wheels. -g

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    Re:Monetizing Domain Name Front Running
    by askii on Saturday January 12 2008, @05:23AM (#16972)
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    I've considered what would happen if someone were to check every domain from the expiration listings on these sites. All 20,000 per day. It would take a large chunk of cash to have that many names purchaced and then refunded, or do these names just go unbilled by Verisign? Also these names are searchable and known. For example if one were to compile a set of one hundred dog bad names and check them on a registrar site, then they could see the registrar hold them for four days and even make fake web traffic or use the names in spam email return addresses or worst. If you had told me five years ago that our wonderful internet would be trashed by the lawless system we have now, I would have said "NO WAY". How did we get here? While I think someone should be able to get a refund for a misstyped names, it's best that the "instant" activation of a name be delayed five days. That would also stop many other missuses and fraud. Just delay adding these names to the zone. It's that simple. ICANN can you here me now?
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