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    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Tuesday November 09 2004, @06:44PM (#14433)
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    Being the (now mostly former) resident net prophet, this is exactly what I predicted would happen, both on the old DNSO-GA list, their archive search appears broken so I can't point to it without a lot of hassle, and here on ICANNWatch, where the search function isn't broken, it just doesn't seem to parse the archives from prior to the major software change here, so again you'll have to take my word for it. It was obvious at the time to even the terminally clueless (as I also pointed out on the DNSO-GA list, and surprise, it's even in the archives here [icannwatch.org] that picking up deleted domains, and no longer thinking up and registering and offering for sale my-kewl-name-and-it-is-for-sale.com was where the money was (at least allegedly, most of that past and present get rich quick crap is, always has been, and probably always will be just registrars/registries/ICANN selling ocean waterfront property at low tide).

    So, as I suggested at the time, mebbe you want to pick up a deleted domain, but it isn't deleted. No problemo. You rat them out for supposed false WHOIS data, they fail to respond in time (perhaps because you've letterbombed or virused or social engineered them into non-compliance), and you've got a claim on it thru one (or all, if it's important enough or VeriSign has a monopoly on it) drop service and hey presto, you now own hotmail.com (which was previously accidentally dropped if you know your DNS history) or whatever.

    But wait, it gets worse, now you have registrars picking up the deleted domains themselves to sell at a greater profit (as I predicted at the above link), primarily to the online pr0n and gambling industries, so of course they have an incentive to see the name drop for bogus reasons. Again, as I pointed out away back, songbird.com registrant (and ICANN apologist, and later staffer, Kent Crispin) had inaccurate WHOIS data. I may well have been the first to use the ICANN link to rat anyone out (like everything else they do, their provided link didn't work for awhile so I kept monitoring it). I never received any notification in response and the WHOIS data remained uncorrected for months. I also pointed this out here and there and someone explained to me patiently that that was a fault with the registrar software. I guess we now have incentive for more faults than San Andreas. Sadly, songbird.com now has a different registrar and appears to have been corrected, and not being a hearing aid company [songbirdstore.com] I probably can't get it from him via the UDRP. Shucks. Too bad no-one appears to be listening to my warnings (and BTW John Berryhill said many of the same things), which is why in matters ICANNian I'm now mostly in formal wear. -g

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    by Anonymous on Wednesday November 10 2004, @08:31AM (#14435)
    This sort of crap is why I keep saying that domain registrars, domain brokers, and web hosting companies should not be permitted to own ANY domains other than those they actually need for their OWN business.

    (system doesn't seem to want to let me make an account.. oh well)
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