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    Not the first time....
    by GeorgeK on Wednesday February 18 2004, @09:42AM (#12991)
    User #3191 Info | http://www.kirikos.com/
    They still never posted the contents of the Stop Verisign DNS Abuse [whois.sc] petition in their correspondences section, even though I couriered a printout of the first 10,500+ signatures and comments to them in the first few days (it's now at almost 20,000). Other community input on SiteFinder from their "pals" like VeriSign were posted immediately.

    On the bright side, if someone searches for "VeriSign" at Google, we're at #13, above many of their country partners. :) And, for "VeriSign DNS" we're #1 (their Enterprise DNS solutions that used to be #1, before SiteFinder, are knocked out of the top 30!).
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    Re:Not the first time....
    by GeorgeK on Saturday February 21 2004, @01:20PM (#13017)
    User #3191 Info | http://www.kirikos.com/
    Nice troll....maybe sign your name next time?

    It wasn't "speculators" (and are you trying to suggest speculators don't dominate SnapNames' client list -- get a clue as to why they stopped publishing their "Hot 100" list, as it was dominated by pros) alone who were against WLS. A CONSENSUS of constituencies voted it down. Do Speculators dominate the Non-Commercial Constituency? Do they dominate the ISP Constituency? Do they dominate the Business Constituency? Do they dominate the ccTLD registries? Go back and read the vote of the Names Council [dnso.org]:

    Item 3: Wait Listing Service - report and vote to adopt .......
    "Philip Sheppard moved for a vote of adoption for the report as a
    whole.
    15 voted in favour, 3 voted against (the members of the gTLD
    constituency) 1 abstention (IPC). Greg Ruth was absent, no proxy given.
    The motion carried with a greater than two-thirds majority making this
    a consensus policy recommendation of the DNSO. This reflected the vote
    within the task force itself on the recommendations.
    Decision 3: Report adopted"

    The proponents of WLS are a self-interested minority, the VeriSign registry and its pals. To see this, let's have a WLS with the wholesale price at $1 per domain name --- do you really think that cannot be done, if it was open to public tender?

    The hypocrisy is your own, Mr. Anonymous Coward. Next time you bring up the "speculators" argument (even SnapNames uses that phrase on their website), publish a list of ALL domains caught by SnapNames clients, and their identities. Or, to save you some time, go back and look at the archived Hot 100 [dnso.org] analyzed in the past.
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    Re:Not the first time....
    by GeorgeK on Sunday February 22 2004, @05:05AM (#13021)
    User #3191 Info | http://www.kirikos.com/
    A bunch of so-called "WLS Supporters" were outed on ICANN's WLS comments forum [icann.org], showing that there was a direct link to SnapNames (i.e. they were almost all from around Portland, haha).

    When you ask these same WLS Supporters who are supposedly out there to protect consumer interests whether they'd support a WLS at $1, they go mum. Why is that? HAHAHAHAHA

    Talk about hypocrites. Also, go answer the above question about whether it is Speculators that dominate the 1) Business Constituency, 2) ccTLD Registries Constituency, 3) Non-Commercial Constituency, 4) ISP Constituency?

    I'd be hiding my identity too, if I was confronted with such blatant hypocrisy, and inability to answer the most simple questions. At least when Chuck Gomes or other VeriSign folks didn't answer direct questions, they didn't hide behind a mask. We KNOW they're evading the tough questions, and why --- what's your agenda? It's obviously not consumer protection, and stopping abusive monopolists. Got shares in VRSN or SnapNames or something? I bet you're a SiteFinder supporter too...

    Compliments to Michael that ICANNWatch is considered such a leader in setting public policy that the VeriSign spin-doctors will troll the site. :)
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