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    DNS trust
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday August 06 2003, @01:36PM (#12029)
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    You can't trust the DNS because a domain name is just an alphanumeric string that points you to IP numbers. Which string points to which numbers can and does change. This used to be a feature of the DNS when everyone played nice. Now it has become a bug. See my report on how and why that is happening here [icannwatch.org] (and it has gotten much worse since).

    That is why much of the howling and gnashing of teeth coming out of ICANN lately is over the WLS, with the purchase of domain names for legit purposes in decline, it is ICANN's only growth industry. What used to be a tool for direction has become a tool for misdirection. End-users, not surprisingly, neither appreciate or trust a tool of misdirection. And it is a shame that ICANN toadies and profits from this growing trend without so much as a blush. -g

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    Re:DNS trust
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday August 06 2003, @07:50PM (#12031)
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    Who's blowing hot air?
    Otherwise, the speculators wouldn't be doing so well. No point speculating if nobody is buying.
    Grab a clue. I thought speculators were extinct by now. They got hit by a meteor called reality. Most speculators have never done well and most have now disappeared, witness the decline and fall of Afternic et al (although they're making a lame attempt at pretending to be back from the dead). Where did all the speculators go if it is a valid business model?

    Back about '98 and for a coupla years after that (which is to say in the hayday of speculation) I represented a SillyValley venture that owned many 'good' names. They wanted to sell some of them and it fell to me to give it a try. This included a meeting with the CEO of GreatDomains (some of the names were estimated by them and others as worth over $100,000 each and were listed on GD's front page). I used just about every technique ever suggested on Afternic, including a few I came up with myself (and freely passed on there), except for the not playing nice ones.

    After more than a year of this did we get so much as one expression of interest? Yes. Exactly one, for one name estimated in the tens of thousands of dollars. I wanted to know how serious they were and so checked them out (they had made a lame attempt to shield their identity). Turns out they were quite a successful (back then) dotcom startup, meaning they had money to burn. Would they pay $10k for that name? No. It was finally offered to them for $1k and they said no thanks and for all I know went and registered some permutation thereof or just kept using something off their existing domain, EG: existingname.com/wantedname/.

    Listen, if you want to be taken seriously, point to some actual recent sales (and don't tell me about business.com, it was back before the meteor hit, and besides I've already debunked it as an Ostrofsky scam if you were paying attention). And don't tell me about speculators' sales to other speculators, that's just the dinosaur foodchain of the bigger fool being eaten by the smaller.

    Hehe. This is too rich. To gild the lily, I just tried dnsforum.com (more than once, incl. with the www. prefix) in my browser and it can't be found. I then tried and got there (although most end-users wouldn't have a clue how to get that IP number so would logically assume that there's no such animal as dnsforum.com, part of my original point that you apparently missed by a galaxy or so). 75 members, wow, a small fraction of what used to be on Afternic/GD etc. I guess that's where those few remaining dinosaurs have gone to die. Go back there and keep whistling your hot air by the graveyard, ya lamer. -g

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