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    Re:ICANN Board Correct Here
    by jberryhill on Friday May 02 2003, @10:11AM (#11552)
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    And while you are at dnforum, be sure to read my comments about WLS. I predict it will be a boon to speculators, since it will be the one "sure bet" instead of the costly approach of using multiple drop services.

    "few netizens outside the domain world ever heard of DropWizard or Namewinner."

    That is correct. It is also true of SnapNames, as Verisign's own analysis of SnapBacks indicated that about half were held by bulk registrants. Some estimate that figure to be much higher. So, if the better-known SnapNames were the only game in town, it would still be the case that most expired names would be registered by the people whose aroma you find distasteful. As you probably know, SnapNames wants to grandfather this unseemly crowd into the WLS, so that on day one the WLS will be mostly populated by the same familiar faces.

    Now, why do you implicitly assume that everyone "outside the domain world" is going to know about WLS?

    Just who do you think the primary customers for the WLS are going to be? People who do not know much about domain drops? Are you kidding? You seriously believe that relatively naive prospective domain name registrants are going to understand WLS, and are going to squeeze out competition from people who follow the system closely?

    People will continue to "play the drop system for .coms". If WLS is implemented, it will merely be the system to be played. WLS positions will be first-come first-served, just like domain names. So, why is there any basis to believe that those who are skilled at being first to register domain names will not be equally skilled at being first to get WLS positions?

    If you don't like the way things are now, then keep a camera handy and send me the picture of your face the day you find out that there is a secondary market for WLS positions on "prime" names due to expire.

    Take this to the bank - when and if WLS begins operation, there is going to be a generous buffet of crow for those who believed that speculators would just give up and walk away if the rules of the game were changed.
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    Re:ICANN Board Correct Here by jberryhill
    Re:ICANN Board Correct Here
    by jberryhill on Friday May 02 2003, @12:49PM (#11555)
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    "Naive registrants won't have to understand it. They'll know it's an affordable way to be first in line for a particular domain ..."

    Unless someone else has already gotten to be the first in line for that domain.

    But the "back-order" feature by which NSI already sells *the exact same way* is the current SnapNames system. Even non-naive people already complain about the fact that the "good" snaps are all taken. Do you think calling it "WLS" will make the situation any different from the perspective of this potential customer?

    You are simply moving the "problem" back one step, and this is the magical thinking part that I never understand in these discussions...

    If the domain name is taken before this "good" person came along, then why do you think the WLS position on that name will not also be taken before they come along?

    And if the domain name registrant uses an auto-renew feature on the domain, so that every year as the renew date approaches, the desired domain name is renewed, how many successive years do you think it is going to take for this "naive" WLS holder to start getting a little jaded about what he/she is paying for every year when the corresponding WLS position, um... guess what.... expires!

    "That's it, just click and forget."

    Yes. Click and forget the fact that you've just paid $X, the name was renewed, and you have gotten exactly nothing for the money you paid. There is certainly a lot to be said for getting people to pay you money for nothing. Deal me in.

    Imagine the rush to grab expiring WLS slots on good names... Do you think *those* are just going to sit around untaken?

    Or did you think that a WLS position was a perpetual front row seat?

    Heh... stay tuned.
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