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    Ben, are you working for the FTC
    by strandanzug on Saturday February 01 2003, @12:43AM (#11068)
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    The thing I find most interesting about this is how you were able to obtain a list of domain names owned by John Zuccarini.

    Specificaly a list of names registered by him after the ftc case was closed.

    Some of the names you mentioned in your article were registered after the ftc case was closed so you could not have gotten those new names from reading their lawsuit, if in fact the ftc lawsuits contains a list of domains owned by John Zuccarini

    Other than crawling John Zuccarini's server, I can't imagine how you would obtain such a list.

    I am going to guess that John Zuccarini has his server pretty well fortified, but I have recently read that the ftc is using a very expensive software program that is able to crawl servers that other software cannot.

    To obtain such a list, I believe it would have to be done in one of two ways.

    1. You crawled the server of John Zuccarini

    or

    2. You are working with the ftc and they supplied you with the information you have posted here and have in fact posted such information as part of an agreement with the ftc in order to obtain information about John Zuccarini.

    Can you tell us how you obtained a list of domain names owned by John Zuccarini.

    Can you confirm or deny that you have obtained a list of names owned by John Zuccarini from the ftc that is not available to the general public.
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    Re:Ben, are you working for the FTC
    by strandanzug on Saturday February 01 2003, @12:58AM (#11069)
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    I will add, that I also do not understand how you can be so sure the domains registered after January 2002 are his when the whois information gives no indication of that what so ever.

    How can you reach that conclusion. I find that very unusal.

    Again, I need to ask how to you obtain a list of domain names supposedly registered by John Zuccarini after January 2002.
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    Methodology
    by BenEdelman on Saturday February 01 2003, @07:24AM (#11070)
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    I'm not prepared to discuss the specific details of my methodology. After all, my methodology is relatively unusual and, I'd like to think, innovative.

    That said, I'll do my best to answer your questions --

    My methods don't rely on any list filed with a court. See, for example, my "Tina's Free Live Webcam" research [harvard.edu] (May 2002) in which I documented 4000+ domains registered to Tina (aka Domain Strategy), though no court case had or has been filed against them (so far as I know).

    I also don't use any expensive software.

    I do use my own custom software -- scripts cobbled together over a period of some years -- as well as a number of publicly-available data sources.

    I don't know what "crawled the server" means -- I know what it means to crawl a web site, extracting and preserving each page on the site, but I'm not clear on what it means to do that to a server, irrespective of protocol, and also don't understand how that would yield a list of all domains registered to a given registrant.

    I'm not working with the FTC, and they didn't supply me with any information or any list whatsoever. In fact, I've never seen whatever list the FTC filed with the court, and I don't know how to get it (short of going to the court and paying the court clerk for a photocopy of that portion of the record, assuming it's not under seal).

    Ben
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