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Here is the text of the last message on the Domain-Policy list:
Date: Tue, 24 May 0101 11:13:49 -0400
From: Tom Newell {tomn@LISTS.NETSOL.COM}
To: DOMAIN-POLICY@LISTS.NETSOL.COM
Subject: List deactivation
This list will be closed effective immediately. When
we started the list many years ago, there were no lists
specifically focusing on domain policy issues. Today
there are a wide range of public lists that address
this topic.
Thank you very much for your participation.
Please refer all queries to Brian O'Shaughnessy, of
VeriSign's Corporate Communications department at
boshaughnessy@verisign.com.
--Tom
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VeriSign Ends Critical Discussion
Associated Press 1:05 p.m. May 24, 2001 PDT
http://www.wired.com/news/ebiz/0,1272,44080,00.html
[...]
Brian O'Shaughnessy, a VeriSign spokesman, said the closure
had nothing to do with the criticisms. If that had been the
case, he said, VeriSign would have shut down the list long ago.
[...]
ICANNwatch is mentioned, too.
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Personally, I find this very disappointing. The Domain-Policy list has always been noisy, but it's also been a great place to get information on the arcane issues of domain name administration. This is an area that's becoming increasingly complex with the addition of new registrars and new TLDs. I've always viewed it as a credit to NSI, Verisign and all of its employees that it both sponsored the list and actively participated in it. Years before the Cluetrain left the station, NSI was already on board, actively engaging its customers in an online dialogue with knowledgeable, senior managers, not clueless customer service reps. In spite of new competition in the domain name registration market, I've kept my domain name registrations with NSI for one reason: because I knew I could turn to the NSI employees I had met on the Domain-Policy list if something went wrong.
By abandoning the list, Verisign is making room for one of its competitors to now sponsor a similar list. I doubt much time at all will pass before someone still on board the train siezes the opportunity. And I'll become acquainted with a new set of experts.
It's also hard not to view the crude way in which the list was terminated (no notice, no opportunity for list members to organize a new list or
download the archives) against the U.S. Department of Commerce's approval last week to give Verisign near-perpetual control of the .com registry. Now secure in its position as the dominant registry and dominant registrar, Verisign takes years of important archives off-line and abruptly ends an ongoing dialogue with some of its best customers. Let's hope this is not a sign of what is to come.
-- Bret
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It's PHP-Nuke (and version 4.2 at that) not Slashcode, alas, and so far we have turned off moderation. As a result, all signed posts go in at "1" and all anonymous ones go in at "0". User moderation is not well implemented in this version of PHP-Nuke (in fact, it's near useless). There is a decent editor-only moderation function, but we don't intend to use that unless we have to.
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Good point this one. Anyway the clue of the "story" is : massive use of power, by NSI obviously. The way the list has been closed is such a clear point: we have the power, "shut up" . And all of this is coming just the same week the modified agreement was signed. Would NSI have done the same thang if it was just few days ago before the approval by DOC? I don't have a clue, they have.
Anyway, critics apart, the whole point is to get back the archive and understand exactly why NSI had such an use of power, (this reminds better the word abuse).
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We all know NSI received stinging criticism on this list for years and had not pulled the plug. It should not be lost on anyone, especially given the nearly 12,000 people reading this story, that the real reason for Verisign taking this drastic action right now was to stop the spread of disclosures coming out of the Mike Johnson court action about its ICANN and industry bad acts. This was done for damage control and to keep the readers on this list from receiving copies of further documents from Mike Johnson.
However, given the many press inquiries into the details of the disclosures printed in the Domain Policy list last week about predatory acts and wrong behavior towards the watchdog agencies, Verisign's panic-driven action may have only drawn more attention to the shocking allegations. Only time will tell if this shutdown really was a good idea for a company grounding its reputation on honesty and trust.
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These are the ONLY people who posted to the list on May 23 and May 24:
Tom Newell
!Dr. Joe Baptista
Jeff Williams
Karl Peters
John Berryhill PhD
Bruce James
flip levin
Dan Steinberg
Jay R. Ashworth
David Howe
Roeland Meyer
Richard J. Sexton
Admin (Russ Smith)
There is no "Danny" who posted to the list on the day it was closed or any time on the previous day.
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