Bret Fausett: ...Whether you are right or I am right about the merits of .com, I think we ought to use what I am hearing in the hallways to make it better. Because frankly, if we can't figure out how to represent the public interest better, there are other organizations that start to look like they might be able to do that.

Vint Cerf: Just keep in mind that a multistakeholder organizations have more than just public interest to represent. Is that a fair observation, Bret?

Bret Fausett: I think in an organization like ICANN, public interest is the overriding interest that should be represented.

Vint Cerf: We should talk about that because I have a different model.

Bret Fausett: Then I think that your different model and my model of the public interest being paramount might be exactly at the source of the tensions that we are feeling.

Vint Cerf: See you over a pinot noir.