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    WSIS Internet:: Brought to You By Iran, Syria and China
    posted by michael on Saturday October 01 2005, @05:37AM

    Steven Forrest writes "Perhaps only the French could come up with a plan for Internet governance that is absurd that we look to ICANN as the voice of reason.

    At this week’s WSIS meetings in Geneva, France pushed the European Union to propose a new Internet Governance plan. If adopted, the EU's proposal - which calls for a government-run body to control the Internet - would mean the end of ICANN and business-led Internet policies, and hand over the future of the Internet to countries such as Iran, Syria and China.

    Why? Because the Internet has been too successful operating on its own for the last decade. A billion users, over a trillion dollars in commerce and communications. It’s time for the United Nations to take control because they can run it better. "

    And they have already telegraphed at the Geneva meetings how they would operate:

    • Business groups were expelled at the insistence of the Chinese delegation from cyber security meetings.
    • Business groups were expelled at the insistence of the Egyptian delegation from a drafting group on the "enabling environment."
    • Business groups were expelled at the insistence of the Iranian delegation from a drafting group on privacy and consumer protection.

    Keep in mind that just last week that China tightened its restrictions on Internet news.

    Make no mistake, this bid is about control of the Internet, its operations and its content - and it's horrible news for anyone who wants to see the Internet flourish as an engine of technological innovation, economic growth and the free exchange of ideas and information.

    The U.S. Government has signaled it will stand by the current system of a business-government partnership to determine the best policies for the Internet.

    ICANN may have its faults - indeed, I have documented some of its flaws on this site - but right now it looks pretty good compared to what the EU and "Axis of Bureaucracy" are dreaming up for the future of the Internet.

    The Associated Press story focuses only on the U.S. government's position, and doesn't provide details of the alternative. The International Herald Tribune's story is significantly better - and notes that the EU's proposal includes handing control of the Internet's addressing system, the Domain Name System, to the UN-run body.

    The United States lost its only ally late Wednesday when the EU made a surprise proposal to create an intergovernmental body that would set principles for running the Internet. Currently, the U.S. Commerce Department approves changes to the Internet's "root zone files," which are administered by the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, or Icann, a nonprofit organization based in Marina del Rey, California.

    In its new proposal, the EU said the new body could set guidelines on who gets control of what Internet address - the main mechanism for finding information across the global network - and could play a role in helping to set up a system for resolving disputesThe IHT says the European decision to support the creation of a new international body to govern the Internet "clearly caught the Americans off balance and left them largely isolated at talks designed to come up with a new way of regulating the digital traffic of the 21st century."

    "It's a very shocking and profound change of the EU's position," said David Gross, the State Department official in charge of America's international communications policy. "The EU's proposal seems to represent an historic shift in the regulatory approach to the Internet from one that is based on private sector leadership to a government, top-down control of the Internet."

    Delegates meeting in Geneva for the past two weeks had been hoping to reach consensus for a draft document by Friday after two years of debate. The talks on international digital issues, called the World Summit on the Information Society and organized by the United Nations, were scheduled to conclude in November at a meeting in Tunisia. Instead, the talks have deadlocked, with the United States fighting a solitary battle against countries that want to see a global body take over supervision of the Internet.It's a battle that the United States must win - or else, a decade from now, we'll be asking "Who lost the Internet?"

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    Michael, Michael, Michael
    by raid on Saturday October 01 2005, @01:37PM (#16258)
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    Vinton Cerf Can Run But He Can Not Hide at Google
    by Anonymous on Sunday October 02 2005, @03:09AM (#16259)
    Vinton Cerf Can Run But He Can Not Hide at Google

    "ICANN must succeed or Internet will be in jeopardy.  This ought
        to play well with any company whose stock price is dependent on a
        well-functioning Internet."

    Countries (yes, even socialist countries like China
    and Canada) are not stupid. They can see the
    corruption and hypocrisy of the United States
    where Vinton Cerf and his partner Bernie Ebbers
    are able to steal 11+ Billion dollars from the
    government and the people and manipulate stock
    prices to do it. Bernie Ebbers is in prison.
    Vinton Cerf is now at Google to help inflate their
    stock price. What will Google buy with inflated
    stock value ? Will Google buy Bernie Ebber's
    Worldcom assets, that were bought with inflated
    stock values.

    Do you see the pattern ?

    Vinton Cerf Can Run But He Can Not Hide at Google

    "ICANN must succeed or Internet will be in jeopardy.  This ought
        to play well with any company whose stock price is dependent on a
        well-functioning Internet."

    http://www.nettime.org/Lists-Archive s/nettime-l-9909/msg00037.html

    On the same day Vint Cerf replied in a message showing the unusual length
    that he was prepared to go to salvage ICANN as an MCI/IBM control vehicle:

        Cerf: "I have talked with John Sidgmore.  We will try to get $500K
        at least "backup" in case nothing else in the way of fundraising
        works.  Mike Nelson, I have copied John Patrick and Irving
        Wladawsky-Berger [Editor: an IBM e-commerce executive] on this
        message, as well as John  Sidgmore. If IBM and MCI Worldcom can
        come up with $1M in "bridge" funding, to be paid back at a later
        time under reasonable terms that will not harm ICANN, then perhaps
        we can begin a new fundraising campaign knowing that we have the
        ability to back up the campaign with a rescue effort in the short
        term.  It will be easier for John Sidgmore to make the case to the
        MCI WorldCom management if IBM is willing to go into this with us
        and split the $1M cost.  Is it possible?

        "I would then launch a campaign with GIP, ITAA, Internet Society,
        and other interested groups on the basis that

        [TD Editor's emphasis]

        *ICANN must succeed or Internet will be in jeopardy.  This ought
        to play well with any company whose stock price is dependent on a
        well-functioning Internet." "Thoughts?"*
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    under whelmed by post
    by ebw on Sunday October 02 2005, @04:55AM (#16261)
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    i can't decide if the poster works out of k street for the usg, milking the "freedom (museum) vs axis of weevils" mantra for the moron market, or out of reston, wraping vgrs in the stars and bars. both appear to map to the same shallow jingoisms.

    this is my last browser click on icannwatch. icann is nearly worthless, and icannwatch now has about the same value. its a marriage of equals.
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    Business groups are being excluded, what about us?
    by KarlAuerbach on Sunday October 02 2005, @06:22PM (#16267)
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    Had business groups protested against the exclusion of internet users from the halls of ICANN then perhaps I would have more sympathy for the exclusion of businesses from WSIS/WGIG.

    At least the WSIG/WGIG allowed businesses and business interests to apply for credentials to attend. We individual users of the internet were not even allowed the privilege of making an application. We were forced to have our views represented by "Civil Society" organizations.
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    Re:Surprising call for censorship
    by Kieren McCarthy on Thursday October 06 2005, @02:26AM (#16299)
    User #4206 Info
    What rot. This is a controlled website providing authoritative news on ICANN. It is not a free-for-all. The comments section that this comment will appear in is the place for opinion.

    My irritation stemmed from the fact that a highly misleading, palpably untrue article created *entirely* from personal opinion was posted in the same manner and in the same position as normal news stories. This gave it undue prominence and, because of the reputation of this site, imbued it with unjustified credibility.

    It begins: "Perhaps only the French could come up with a plan for Internet governance that is absurd that we look to ICANN as the voice of reason. At this week’s WSIS meetings in Geneva, France pushed the European Union to propose a new Internet Governance plan."

    That isn't news or opinion, it's a simple untruth.

    I felt obliged to point this out to readers and to voice my surprise at the entire posting's appearance on ICANNWatch.


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