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    Privacy The Bootleg WHOIS process expands
    posted by Mueller on Thursday June 05 2003, @08:48AM

    As many people feared and some people warned, the WHOIS-related teleconferences organized by AT&T's Marilyn Cade and some registrars now threatens to escalate into a parallel policy development process that may pre-empt or bypass the official process. The organizers of this effort now plan to have two more teleconferences prior to the Montreal meeting. They've set up their own mailing list. They also proposed that their own hand-picked teleconference moderator, former ICANN CEO Mike Roberts, be made the chair of the GNSO Council Steering Committee on privacy. The agenda of the calls is beginning to reflect biases, as not all constituencies get to play a role in setting it.

    Yes, it's good for all the parties to talk, but doesn't anyone involved in ICANN - including the US Government and its Federal Trade Commission, NTIA, and Patent and Trademark Office - remember why the organization itself was created? Do we really need to re-invent ICANN every time a new issue comes up?

    Clearly, this is an issue that needs policy development, and policy development related to domain names is supposed to be done by the GNSO Council. However low your opinion of the GNSO Council, at least we know who is on it and how it got there, and its activities are governed by known rules.

    Most importantly, we know who is represented, and people on the Council can't get inadvertently left off of relevant notifications, consultations and mailing lists. And it is more difficult for biased agendas to be set.

    For those interested in participating, here is the call-in information:

    Int'l Access/Caller Paid Dial In Number: (954)797-1944


    Start Date and Time: Jun 6 2003 10:00 AM US EDT
    End Date and Time: Fri Jun 6 2003 12:00 PM US EDT
    Duration: 2 hr 00 mins

    Here is the agenda, which seems to have been set by Ross Rader (the Man Who Would be ICANN) and Marilyn Cade without any consultation from privacy advocates:

    Agenda: Segment One - Presentations: Technical and Legal Exploration

    10:05 - 10:20 -Overview of Port 43 problems/possible technical approaches

    10:20 - 10:40 -Overview of CRISP and status

    10:40 - 10:55 Overview by US FTC of the kinds of investigations they use WHOIS for: civil and criminal.

    10:55 - 11:00 Overview by US PTO of situations encountered in dealing with trademarks, brand issues, etc.

    11:00 - 11:05 - Examples of types of civil or criminal fraud problems encountered by registrar.

    These will be brief presentations, and only questions for clarification will be taken, in order to ensure that the second phase of the call can allow broader participation by all attendees to the call.

    Segment Two - Roundtable: Issues and Approaches

    Focus is to have mini statements from call participants on two areas. This should allow each participant to make a very sort statement, if they wish, in two areas: Please plan ahead about you want to so say so that the process can move efficiently, and everyone will get to speak, who wishes to.

    Round One: What are the top 2-3 issues or concerns you think should be addressed? What are the facts or documentation, or analysis needed, if any, about the issue or concern you have identified?

    Round Two: What are some of the approaches, or solutions that you think can be examined, and for which concern/issue/problem?


    Please come prepared to participate with an understanding that the moderator will attempt to keep the call focused on input and questions which relate to clarification, rather than debate about different points of view.

    At the end of the call the participants will be asked to confirm their interest in a third and final call before Montreal, tentatively scheduled for Thursday, June 12, same time frame. If agreed, the call will be scheduled for Thursday and will focus on further discussion of the topics identified in the Second Phase: issues, facts needed, and possible approaches or solutions.

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    Re:Reinventing ICANN
    by ldg on Tuesday June 17 2003, @10:08PM (#11812)
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    it's just control-freakery pure and simple - there is no danger to ICANN in having CCTLDs organize themselves the way they want to under ICANN's umbrella - elsewise they will just do it outside that umbrella.

    If one is living in a dreamworld, one would think that the ccTLDs could form and work under the ICANN umbrella. In the real world, they would fare much better on their own outside that umbrella. They may even find it's not even raining outside.

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