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    Board of Directors ICANN Chair Admits "Stupid Mistake"
    posted by michael on Tuesday February 18 2003, @01:56PM

    dpf writes "ICANN Chair Vint Cerf, currently visiting New Zealand, has given a fairly frank interview on ICANN, TLDs and other issues to IDG.

    Cerf candidly labels ICANN's insistence on access to ccTLDs' zone files as "basically a stupid mistake".

    Other interesting parts include

    • recognising drawbacks in having multiple TLD registries
    • concern that "we don't get carried away with establishing new top-level domains"
    • IPv6 will make the Internet bigger but not easier to run"

    [Editor's note: Two things jump out at me from this interview. First, it's absolutely amazing how tone-deaf Cerf is to competition: he thinks it's bad. The Internet should be run top-down. Ideally by him; if not by him, then by a coalition of some sort. Second, ICANN has finally woken up to the serious threat presented to its monopoly by the ccTLDs.-mf]

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    by WIPOorgUK on Wednesday February 19 2003, @11:55PM (#11199)
    User #3146 Info | http://wipo.org.uk/
    Vint says: "Competent searching and indexing tools are a better way of finding an entity in an appropriate area than simply trusting that information service providers will be in the .info domain."

    And I ask him which is best for finding the business (entity) you are looking for: "Competent searching and indexing tools" (which may return hundreds/thousands of hits) OR a structured directory system.

    Just exactly how is that being a troll?

    Do not strain your single celled brain too hard - Anonymous Coward ;-)
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      You misrepresent
      by WIPOorgUK on Thursday February 20 2003, @04:03PM (#11208)
      User #3146 Info | http://wipo.org.uk/
      > Haven't you realized that DNS is ambiguous - that a given DNS name can resolve to many many types of records, each with many intances.

      I have sussed that.

      And why can it not be aided - made less ambiguous - by adding a directory system to that which causes the most conflict - trademarks?

      Exactly whose purpose does it help - by being ambiguous?

      It only helps the major corporations to steal dictionary words that belong to everybody - small business and individuals alike.

      It only helps the major corporations to unlawfully overreach their trademark.

      > And even in the simple minded world that thinks of the net as being nothing more than the world wide web and in which a domain name leads only to a single A record the IP address in that A record points to an interface on a computer that may serve up a plethora of services of many types.

      I am personally aware that of the history of the Internet and the development of WWW.

      I object to the theft of the DNS by big business - primarily aided and abetted by ICANN, US DoC and UN WIPO.

      > And even if one is so limited as to conceive only of web pages, a single web site often consists of many types of content - look at sony.com - what is it? A movie company, a record company, an electronics company? What's ge.com - a builder of turbines, a finanancial services company, a leasing company...?

      Simple - multiple entries for multiple classifications.


      > Now, if we had decent directory tools we would specify something about what we were looking for, usually via the context or the tool we were using - a phone would look for another telephone service, a calendaring program would look for a remote scheduling service interface, etc.

      I have not knocked other ideas in this respect.

      > Your view of the world is too unimaginate

      "unimaginate" - you cheeky scamp.

      How come the lawyers have not come up with the idea of name.class.country.reg?

      None can deny that it would not identify ALL registered trademark words - without 'consumer confusion', 'trademark conflict' and 'passing off' problems.

      You would think the lawyers are quite happy making all that money from the conflict and ambiguity.

      > and informed solely by search engines that are poor substitutes for real directories,

      It is not informed solely by search engines.


      > but, as measured by their popularity, clearly are much better at the job than the tool you want to impose on us, DNS.

      You misrepresent me - this registered trademark TLD is IN ADDITION to search engines.


      Can anybody here give reasoned argument to counter this statement?

      Surely my favourite critic will argue against it.
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        You just do not get it
        by WIPOorgUK on Friday February 21 2003, @10:07AM (#11210)
        User #3146 Info | http://wipo.org.uk/
        > You are entirely free to build your taxonomic naming system - If you want to engender user confusion you are free to make it look exactly like DNS.

        It is exactly to prevent confusion.

        Why do you wish trademark domains not to be identified as such?

        All words cause confussion with trademarks - so confusion reigns between trademarks and domain names.

        Most domains are not owned by trademarks - so, again - why do you wish trademark domains not to be identified as such?

        Corporations are abusing the DNS - they say it belongs to them - it does not.

        The Domain Name System was not designed as a fatally flawed trademark system, ask creator Paul Mockapetris.

        He designed it for the function of naming resources.

        Are you a lawyer making a lot of money from these conflicts or a corporate stooge - just exactly why do you wish the confusion between trademarks and domains to continue?
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