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    Watchdogs Danny Younger Writes...To Vint Cerf
    posted by michael on Tuesday January 21 2003, @08:05PM

    For some time now I've been struck by the contributions of a few participants on the GA list, notably Danny Younger, formerly the head of the ICANN General Assembly, to the (increasingly marginalized) discussions on the GA mailing list. Some of these contributions consist of copies of messages he's sent elsewhere, some are just comments. Due to the GA's powerlessness and irrelevance, plus the spam and trolls that have at times infested it, the GA doesn't have a very wide readership. Even so, it was the freest debating zone within ICANN -- which is why ICANN wants no part of it and so few ICANN officials ever participate in it.

    I asked Mr. Younger if he would be willing to post his comments (or copies of them) to ICANNWatch, but he demurred, saying he preferred to comment directly to the lists. He did say, however, that we'd be welcome to re-print anything he sent to public mailing lists. So, here's a new ICANNWatch category: Watchdogs, in which we will reprint, and sometimes comment upon, people's campaigns to get answers out of and make sense of ICANN.

    Today's contribution is a copy of an email from Danny Younger to Vint Cerf posted Jan. 20 to the GA list, regarding the missing proposal for an enhanced root server structure. Certainly there's no hint of it on the DNS root sever advisory committee page.

    Update: 01/22 13:48 GMT by M: Vint Cerf replies!

    This item needs no commentary other than to say that (1) I've added the links, and (2) if we see a reply, we'll either post it as an update or a separate item.
    Dear Vint,

    As noted in the "Department of Commerce Statement Regarding Extension of Memorandum of Understanding with ICANN":

    "Given the importance of this issue to Internet security and stability, Amendment 5 to the MOU refines and underscores the existing MOU task for ICANN to review the current status of the root server system and to propose and implement enhanced architecture for root server security (ICANN Task 5). The Department considers the completion of this task absolutely crucial, particularly in today's post-September 11th world. Amendment 5 sets forth a due date of November 30, 2002 for the report detailing the root server system's status, and a due date of December 31, 2002 for the enhanced architecture proposal."

    I regret to report that I did not find mention of progress on these absolutely crucial reports within the "Fifth Status Report to the United States Department of Commerce".

    Could you perhaps provide the community with an update?

    Best regards,

    Update: 01/22 13:48 GMT by M:
    Here's the full, uncut, unedited text of Vint Cerf's reply:
    we agree this is of high importance!

    we're working on it and hope to have releasable information soon.


    Well, couldn't ask for a more detailed, specfic, open and transparent reply than that, could you?

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    I am not aware that anybody is working on it
    by KarlAuerbach on Wednesday January 22 2003, @10:36PM (#11009)
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    I am not aware that anyone is working on this report; I have seen no notice about the status of this report. Nor have I heard any discussion within ICANN on matters pertaining an "enhanced architecture for root server security".
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