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    IP Numbers RIRs REALLY Mad At ICANN
    posted by michael on Sunday September 15 2002, @09:51AM

    The three incumbent RIRs (the regional bodies that allocate IP numbers) have written an angry letter to ICANN.

    So we have the end-users angry and powerless, the ccTLDs furious and powerful, and the RIRs furious, and sleeping giants. My guess is ICANN continues its pattern of trying to subjugate the ccTLDs and caving into RIRs at the last minute. But I'm not sure about that last bit.

    Full text:

    To: Vint Cerf, Alejandro Pissanty, Stuart Lynn


    Subject: The ICANN Reform Process

    This message is being sent to the Chair of ICANN Board, the Chair of the ICANN ERC, and the ICANN President and CEO. It is also being sent to the ERC comment list.

    This is to acknowledge the teleconference that occurred on 10 September 2002. Participants were ICANN (Stuart Lynn, Louis Touton) and APNIC (Geoff Huston, Paul Wilson). While the APNIC participants were not speaking on behalf of ARIN and RIPE NCC, they were conveying the intent of the RIRs as stated in the two carefully prepared and coordinated papers commenting on ICANN reform. The APNIC participants of the call did not hear any indication that ICANN was reading these papers nor did they get any specific response to any of the points raised in those position papers. Therefore the RIRs make the following statement:

    1. The RIRs are dismayed with the second interim report of the ICANN E&R Committee in terms of the lack of consideration and response to the submissions of the RIRs to ICANN.

    2. In the light of this, the RIRs are unwilling to accept the proposed changes to the composition of the ASO, the proposed changes to the support mechanisms of the ASO and proposed changes to the role of the ASO within ICANN.

    3. The RIRs will be providing a substantive blueprint for reform within the next several days.

    Sincerely yours,

    Paul Wilson
    Director General

    Raymond A. Plzak
    President & CEO

    Axel Pawlik
    Managing Director

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    by fnord ({groy2k} {at} {yahoo.com}) on Sunday September 15 2002, @11:29AM (#9242)
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    One wonders where this leaves the ASO's recently elected ICANN BoD member Mouhamet Diop, elected to replace Robert Blokzijl. This link provides links to the two earlier joint RIR statements on ICANN Evolution and Reform as well as on the election, strangely described there as to fill the ASO position on the ICANN Board that will be vacated by Robert Blokzijl after the ICANN meeting scheduled for October 2002, which implies that the oft-recused yet concurrently talkative Blokzijl was resigning, retiring, or not running again, which wasn't the case.

    Meanwhile the DNSO carries on with its election for the ICANN BoD position now held by Alejandro Pisanty, who is running again, despite the BoD being silent when asked by the DNSO secretariat whether the election should proceed as the current Evolution and Reform process, chaired by the same Dr. Pisanty, would make such a position obsolete. Perhaps the good Doctor would have more competition if it was clear whether the position would even exist, but that's just the way things are done in ICANNLand.

    To show his understanding of the democratic process I was going to point to a choice quote of Dr. Pisanty's at the Accra meeting where, in response to the Carter Center's (and ICANN At Large Study Committee Vice-Chair) Chuck Costello's comment that ICANN's Evolution and Reform was a palace coup d'etat, Dr. Pisanty hinted darkly that the Carter Center's observation of various elections had been less than impartial (a claim I've never heard before or since from anyone else), but alas, the video archive for Accra doesn't seem to be presently available, such black holes in the landscape also common in the open and transparent ICANNLand. -g

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    by fnord ({groy2k} {at} {yahoo.com}) on Tuesday September 17 2002, @03:22AM (#9271)
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    ICANN (IE: Louis Touton, who considers himself the logical replacement for Jon Postel, and Kent Crispin, who considers himself the logical replacement for G*d) respond. The short version is that ICANN, because it is bottom up, transparent, open, and works by consensus (not that we've ever seen any of these attributes), now also claims to be objective in its decisions. As a scientist, excuse me while I go and puke. -g
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