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    Registrars Domain Name Graveyard
    posted by michael on Saturday August 03 2002, @05:24AM

    Salon runs a sad but true story on domain names that weren't worth renewing, with lots of funny examples of domain names someone registered and then let lapse when reality set in.

    One more bubble that burst, not unlike or unrelated to, the stock market.

    No doubt people will use the fact that long boring impossible to type names are less in demand as "evidence" that there is "no demand" for short catchy names in new TLDs chosen in a market-driven (rather than ICANN-Board-whimsy) process. Even though there's not much connection between the two.

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    Re: Domain Name Graveyard
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Saturday August 03 2002, @12:39PM (#8348)
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    An excellent and humorous article.

    Michael writes:

    No doubt people will use the fact that long boring impossible to type names are less in demand as "evidence" that there is "no demand" for short catchy names in new TLDs chosen in a market-driven (rather than ICANN-Board-whimsy) process. Even though there's not much connection between the two.
    I do think there is some connection between the two, the pre-bubble exuberance and optimism that caused many to register many of these names is gone, and it probably won't be back. Half the 2LD namespace expiring. GAK! Well, I feign surprise but I predicted this, and worse. And what happens next year? Half of that remainder expires? At what point does this burn rate (which is hitting VeriSign harder than anyone) stop?

    The demand in that pre-bubble era for new TLDs so that more could have short catchy names hasn't gone away, but it is also probably undergoing a similar market correction. I'm just trying to be realistic here by saying that while, of course, there is not "no demand", and there is probably not even a drop in demand corresponding to the dropped name rate, there is also probably also a considerable drop in demand for short, catchy names.

    Many of the folks which registered these names were probably amongst those wanting short, catchy ones. But in many (I suspect the vast majority) of these cases they didn't do anything with the names they did get, so why should we believe that they are still out there wanting shorter names? Or that if they are, and got them, that they would then do anything with them? So then short catchy names get registered and sit unused, and other than making for a slimmer database, and funding ICANN's supply chain to live in unreality for another year, how does that solve anything?

    Now don't get me wrong. I think ICANN should move almost immediately to approve many of the remaining first round applicants (and I'm not saying one should give Paul Garrin all he wants), assuming they are still interested, and I suspect many of them may not be because they understand that that was then and this is now. They would at least probably have to redo business plans to reflect current realities, ICANN would then want to re-assess those plans, ICANN doesn't have any assessment money left for that... Ohhh, what a mess. Well anyway, hopefully some way could be found to approve some of those if they're ready, willing, and able. And aim for a hundred more in a year or so. I'd honestly be very surprised if there were that many independent applicants out there. Any bets we wouldn't see VeriSign applying for a horde of them. And perhaps few others to compete with them. That's not much of a solution either. -g

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    Re: Domain Name Graveyard
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Sunday August 04 2002, @09:58PM (#8373)
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    Scary stuff netboyz 'n' webgrrls. Bret Fausett also covers this story using the seminal buyclamsonline.com. Well, Stargate tells me it's registered. They won't tell me any more than that, their WHOIS is down, and using various tools I couldn't get any additional info beyond primary and secondary nameservers of DNS1.STARGATEINC.NET and DNS2.... Perhaps it just hasn't been completely purged yet, but if it has been re-registered I'm going to be so bummed. I wanted that name, man. I was just waiting for WLS to be okayed so I could grab it. Oh well, it's damaged goods anyway, they already had a webpage up (if you can't recognize it, that's an unshorn VeriSign placeholder page). -g
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    Re: Domain Name Graveyard
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Tuesday August 06 2002, @07:16PM (#8406)
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    The L. A. Times recently covered [free registration required] the same trend. -g
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    Re: Domain Name Graveyard
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Sunday August 04 2002, @05:28PM (#8370)
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    Ya, all my mail to *.web gets delivered. And I'm using ORSC. Is there some corporate farm down there in California that only grows anonymous morons? =g
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    Re: Apple just registered buyclamsonline.com!
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Monday August 05 2002, @09:29AM (#8387)
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    The Stargateinc WHOIS still seems to be down. A lot of the above WHOIS info is incomplete and otherwise suspect. Even if this is accurate, I doubt it's Apple, anyone can get an @mac.com email address. -g
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