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    Membership Issues At-Large confusion
    posted by michael on Monday July 29 2002, @06:19AM

    jamielove writes "As ICANN lurches toward appointment of an unelected and unaccountable system for control over the unique root for the global Internet (including the ability to levy an ICANN tax on all domains), it has meet some resistance. In particular, in Bucharest, a "minority" including the French and German governments "express its discomfort" with the ICANN proposed "nominating committee" (the body that actually elects most of the ICANN board), if the "selecting body was not sufficiently legitimated," noting also the "structure and authority presently proposed for the Nominating Committee would more or less mean replacing the bottom-up by the top-down principle.""

    Sensing some problems explaining how its board is "legimatized," in Bucharest the ICANN board announced it would use the newly formed "At Large Organizing Committee" (ALOC, see at-large.org) to help it select the members of the NomCom. It seems as though the always quotable and available Esther Dyson more or less runs this, and in the event that it is inconvenient to discuss issues with "Members" of the ALOC, she appoints a new smaller set of cronies to work out the important details.

    At the same time, icannatlarge.com, a democratic group she helped set up, but which apparently has elected too many of the "wrong" people, is holding its second election the 3 months, this time for an 11 member board, that is still trying to hammer out its charter, and to lobby for some public representation in the ICANN process (in case anyone at DoC or the GAC cares about this). This is the group that Esther is now seeking to marginalize, in part by more or less confusing everyone with a very similar sounding group, so in the new ICANN speak, "at-large" is used by some to mean, the public having some elections for its own representation (the "old" definition), and by Esther and the ICANN board to mean what looks like a corporate focus group (the new "reformed" definition).

    ICANN's official views on elections are perhaps best summed up by ICANN lawyer Joe Sims, who was quoted by David McGuire in the Washington Post as saying "

    But Joe Sims, ICANN's outside attorney, said Magaziner is too far removed from the ICANN process to see the problems the organization has had with online elections and the steps it has taken to include public voices in its processes. "We spent three years throwing time and energy down the direct election rat-hole," Sims said.

    Below are some selections from the Bucharest GAC statement on the NomCom and the ICANNAtlarge.com (the democratic resistance) ballot.

    Board Selection Process

    15. The majority of GAC members do not have a strong opinion on the concept of a Nominating Committee, believing this to be an issue of ICANN's internal corporate governance, nor on the proposition that there be a GAC delegate on the Nominating Committee. A minority, including France and Germany, specifically expresses its discomfort with the concept of the Nominating Committee. The delegation of Germany raised its concerns that, even though the personal properties referred to as selection criteria may basically be unobjectionable, evaluating individuals by such criteria invariably would be highly subjective and, thus, a doubt-raising procedure. The delegation of Germany believes that this would be all the more so if the Nominating Committee as the selecting body was not sufficiently legitimated. The structure and authority presently proposed for the Nominating Committee would more or less mean replacing the bottom-up by the top-down principle thereby counteracting the objective of securing wider recognition for ICANN. The representative of Spain expressed disagreement with the concept of any potential GAC delegate being in the Nominating Committee. Malaysia is of the view that if there is a GAC delegate, that delegate should not have voting powers. The International Treaty Organization members do not offer a view.

    -------- Original Message --------
    Subject: ICANNATLARGE.COM-election-11membersPanel
    Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 07:07:13 +0200 (MET DST)
    From: icannatlarge@dnso.org
    REQUEST: This is your personal ballot for choosing the
    REQUEST: 11-members Panel of ICANNATLARGE.COM organization.
    REQUEST: You have eleven (11) votes.
    REQUEST: Please mark your candidates with an [X] next to the name.
    REQUEST: There is no requirement to mark all 11 names.
    REQUEST: For more information, please look at
    REQUEST:          http//www.icannatlarge.com/voting.htm
    REQUEST: For candidates statements, please look at
    REQUEST:          http//www.icannatlarge.com/candidatespage.htm
    IMPORTANT: This ballot is From: 'icannatlarge@dnso.org'
    IMPORTANT: -- please reply without CC to any list.
    IMPORTANT: Please do not strip ballot,
    IMPORTANT: it  MUST start with line BEGIN:
    IMPORTANT: it  MUST end   with line END__:
    IMPORTANT: and MUST contain all lines in between.
    b02:UniqueCode:[ ]Vittorio Bertola     (Europe)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]Ted Byfield          (North America)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]Cordley Coit         (North America)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]Bob Crawford         (North America)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]Marc Derriennic      (Europe)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]Eric Dierker         (North America)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]Vivek Durai          (Central/West/South Asia)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]Michael Geist        (North America)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]Todd Glassey         (North America)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]Satyajit Gupta       (Central/West/South Asia)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]Kimberley J. Heitman (Asia/Pacific)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]Richard Henderson    (Europe)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]Milan Kapetanov      (Europe)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]James Khan           (North America)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]Hans Klein           (North America)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]Joanna Lane          (Europe)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]James Love           (North America)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]Jefsey Morfin        (Europe)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]Judith Oppenheimer   (North America)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]Gabriel Pineiro      (Latin America/Caribbean)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]Youn Jung Park       (Asia/Pacific)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]David Schutt         (North America)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]Sotiris Sotiropoulos (North America)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]Edmundo Valenti      (Latin America/Caribbean)
      b02:UniqueCode:[ ]Bruce Young          (North America)b
    ICANNATLARGE.COM Election documents are in:
    Vote Ends: Sunday 4 August 2002, 18:00 UTC
    For local time in other places see http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
    Voting ballots generated on 27 Jul 2002, 04:45:24 UTC

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