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    The Big Picture Hacking ICANN
    posted by jon on Thursday July 04 2002, @09:00AM

    fnord writes "Chaos Computer Club member and ICANN director Andy Müller-Maguhn (elected to represent Europe, website here) will be a panelist at a hacker conference in New York next week, along with Paul Garrin of alt.root Name.Space, who also tried and failed during the ICANN new TLD application process. The topic: F**king Up the Internet at ICANN: Global Control Through the Domain Name System and How to Escape."

    I'm not a big fan of name.space (and not just because I'm confused whether they allowed me a .fnord TLD). Why would I pay them more for an alt.root domain than one in ICANN's legacy root? And I profess to being confused as to why Andy would vote for ICANN's reform proposal (and why director Karl Auerbach was MIA).

    Nevertheless I predict that now that ICANN has fully swooned into the arms of the multinat megacorps, someone will do some creative pranking to point out the Emperor's lack of attire, perhaps in a less illegal fashion than Eugene Kashpureff, and perhaps not. At the very least, attendees will learn how to turn VeriSign's WLS to their advantage. To kickstart the proceedings, Uzi Nissan (I covered his nissan.com story here) will also make an appearance. ICANN pats itself on the back and leaves a Kick Me sign. -g

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    Re: Hacking ICANN
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Monday July 15 2002, @07:59AM (#7863)
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    Reuters coverage on H2K2 can be found here. The site link which should appear for hacktivismo in the story but is invisible can be found in the source code, but it appears to be a typo: hactivismo.com. The real site is hacktivismo.com (Dan Tobias should give them a slap), which at time of writing is returning HTTP Error 403 Access Forbidden. Wow, now that's numerous levels of privacy. Additional coverage here from infowar.com. -g
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    Re: Hacking ICANN
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Thursday July 04 2002, @04:21PM (#7644)
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    Don't get me wrong. I like Karl. He has done more than could reasonably be expected of anyone under the circumstances. He has always acted with integrity (a concept entirely foreign to ICANN) and I share his views on the big picture. But I see no reason why he couldn't more widely publicize why he wasn't there, even remotely. I thought his lawsuit might constrain him from interacting with those he was suing, but if that is the case, why take part in any BoD meetings? According to ICANN's snailpace record he has remotely attended at least two [1, 2] Special Meetings of the BoD since filing the lawsuit. I fail to see the distinction (in a relevant legal sense) between ICANN Board of Directors public and private meetings. If circumstances have changed in the meantime, a public statement to that effect would be helpful. -g
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    Re: Hacking ICANN
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Friday July 05 2002, @05:34AM (#7652)
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    In fact that is what the panel which Andy Müller-Maguhn and Paul Garrin are on is addressing:
    The question is raised: Is there hope for seeking fair access to the legacy ROOT.ZONE through due process or is it time to treat ICANN as "damage" and route around it?
    There doesn't seem to be any flood of users to the alternate roots, and as I've said many times, it's a chicken and egg problem. If there isn't much unique content available only via alt roots, why go there? And why put unique content there if most can't see it? Many of the hackers at H2K2 already know about, and use, alt roots but that doesn't amount to fighting corporate oppression. Although changing one's DNS or downloading/installling a plugin doesn't require hacker skills, most non-hackers don't use, or even know about, alt roots.

    What is needed for some kind of success is for unique content to be available, there are millions of users into P2P filesharing, what happens if those files are only available via an alt root? Well, you then have millions of willing users, and even those wishing to police such names and files for IP infringement would have to become users (one could police for files via IP address, there is no alt IP root, but I think that could be gotten around through the use of dynamic IP along with some other tricks). Perhaps someone will write such an app.

    Nevertheless, if this is as far as the hacking goes, it doesn't fight corporate oppression, it is running and hiding from it. With ICANN's growing centralized power and increasing involvement from governments (many of them nasty), it will become increasingly difficult to hide, which is where encryption can play a role.

    The end result of this would be that the SigInt of the USG and others that failed to forewarn about 9/11 would have to deal with thousands or millions of times as much suspicious traffic. Even blackhats don't want to create a conduit for that or such things as kiddie pr0n. But ICANN, by excluding the public from any say in the internet commons, is actually decreasing stability and security. -g

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    Re: Hacking ICANN
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Friday July 05 2002, @11:30PM (#7656)
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    Erm, he had 500+ TLDs before MdR, and you could vote for more than one representative, so ya, you are a troll, and a fool. -g
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