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    .org List of .org applicants published
    posted by tbyfield on Wednesday June 19 2002, @03:03AM

    ICANN has published a list of applications for the "reassignment" of .org, but notes that they "have not yet been verified to be complete in all respects or to be in proper form." On first glance, they range -- in my opinion -- from the bitterly cynical to the hopelessly naive. Unfortunately, first glance is all we've got for now.



    A few notes:

    The DotOrg Foundation (Registry Advantage and Kintera -- not to be confused with the the .Org Foundation) needs to do its homework by, say, reading my writeup of ICANN's new-gTLD flea circus. If they had, they would have had a much better idea of how ICANN treats anyone well-meaning outsiders...

    ...as opposed to no-so-well-meaning insiders like ISOC. Sorry, but we've heard way too much noise over the years about ISOC and ICANN trying to find some way, any way, to tie the knot (for example, bailing ISOC out by making it into an ersatz At Large).

    The .Org Foundation (the eNom one -- not to be confused with the DotOrg Foundation) got caught with its pants down: a default Win2K error: "You do not currently have a default document set for this directory. To create a default document, create a file in this directory named either 'Default.asp' or 'Default.htm'." This does not bode well.

    And, finally, NeuStar... We still have questions, serious questions, about the Blokzijls: one an ICANN boardmember, one a quick hire-fire by NeuLevel. ICANN has yet to respond officially to questions about this. Unofficially, though, boardmember Alejandro Pisanty has careered from leveling tremulous recriminations against anyone who dared ask about the matter to smooth assurances that ICANN is busily "repopulating" its Conflict of Interest Subcommittee -- without, of course, assuring us that it'll actually do anything once it's been repopulated. Not that Blokzijl's recusal on his own COI question or the .org decision would necessarily mean much, mind you: during the new gTLD circus, Dyson -- then chair -- didn't know he'd recused himself and he didn't restrain himself from indicating his preferences.

    ICANN's board is lucky indeed that it won't have to make a public show of its slapstick incompetence in assessing these applications for .org. That's a shame, because many people would like to know just what kinds of questions are being weighed, for example:

    • Should we bail out the recipient of a failing new gTLD by giving them .org?
    • Who is most likely to pursue an aggressively pro-intellectual property agenda by limiting the use of .org for criticism of commercial ventures?
    If ICANN were, as it claims, open and transparent, it would conduct this decision-making process in the open for all to see. I doubt they will, but first things first: let's see the applications themselves in a timely fashion.

     
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    Re: List of .org applicants published
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday June 19 2002, @03:54AM (#7264)
    User #2810 Info
    The Register.com bid seems a bit underdone, see their Org Coming Soon page, along with popups, but don't download the Gator spyware. And what of the Union of International Associations bid with an Additional Partner/Provider of VeriSign, Inc. Wouldn't that sort of defeat the purpose?

    BTW, the COI committee has been repopulated, with Karl Auerbach remaining, Jonathan Cohen taking the place of the retiring Philip Davidson, and Rob Blokzijl continuing to serve as chair. Note also the Organic Names Ltd. bid with an Additional Partner/Provider of CentralNic Limited, which caused Rob Blokzijl to recuse himself at MdR2k. -g

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    Re: List of .org applicants published
    by PeterBarron (pebarron@hotmail.com) on Wednesday June 19 2002, @04:33AM (#7265)
    User #3240 Info | http://www.icannwatch.org/
    It's nothing more than a quick $385.000,00 for ICANN to fund more trips. The winner has already been selected.

    ++Peter
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    Outside the US?
    by isquat on Wednesday June 19 2002, @05:26AM (#7266)
    User #3363 Info | http://i.squ.at/
    I am guessing: ICANN sort of has to give it to a bidder outside of the US, to keep other parts of the world happy. Esp. the EU thinks that it is all way too much in US hands. Combined with the cartel character of the whole domain name 'industry', and ICANN's efforts to make the governments a bit happy to get its 'reform' accepted, one of the 5 non-US bidders (which happen to be in Europe, all 5, though 2 outside of the EU...) must win.
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    Re: List of .org applicants published
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Wednesday June 19 2002, @06:25AM (#7270)
    User #2810 Info
    I just got the following email from ISOC, complete with wonky formatting. Here is a clickable link to the referenced http://www.isoc.org/dotorg. -g


    -------------


    Dear Internet Society Member:

    I am writing to inform you of a recent decision by the Internet
    Society Board of Trustees to submit a bid to the Internet Corporation
    for Assigned Names and Numbers, Inc. ("ICANN") to succeed VeriSign,
    Inc.
    as the registry operator for the .ORG top-level domain. This bid is
    being announced formally, and we wanted to be sure you were informed.
    Now that the bid is being officially submitted, we can provide you
    with
    more specifics.

    We’ve set up a section of our Web site (http://www.isoc.org/dotorg)
    that
    should answer your questions about .ORG, why ISOC is making a bid,
    and the
    structure we envision. I hope that you will support ISOC in these
    efforts.
    If you do, we ask that you send a letter of support to ICANN. Please
    visit
    http://www.isoc.org/dotorg and use the online submission form you’ll
    find there.

    As one of the oldest "Internet institutions," ISOC has long led
    activities
    that contribute to an open and stable Internet. Through its
    initiatives in
    support of education and training, Internet standards and protocol,
    and public
    policy, ISOC has played a critical role in ensuring that the Internet
    has
    developed in a stable and open manner and we believe that this is a
    natural
    extension of those efforts.

    ISOC's mission is wholly consistent with a non-commercial philosophy
    and our
    plans for .ORG will enable it to flourish as a truly global home
    dedicated
    to serving the unique interests of non-commercial organizations on
    the net.
    In addition, ISOC expects to be able to add significant value to the
    registry
    space in total, given our roots, values, and technical knowledge.

    We have chosen to work with Afilias Limited, which will be our
    back-end registry
    services provider. Afilias successfully deployed the first EPP-based
    registry
    system with the launch of .INFO, and has a proven back-office system
    that can
    clearly execute the policies required for a stable and effective
    management of .ORG.

    This is an excellent partnership for ISOC, non-commercial entities,
    the .ORG
    registry, and the Internet, and we thank you in advance for your
    support.

    Warm regards,


    Lynn St. Amour
    President/CEO, ISOC

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    Re: List of .org applicants published
    by PeterBarron (pebarron@hotmail.com) on Wednesday June 19 2002, @07:02AM (#7273)
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    There is absolutely no question in my mind that, among the applicants, the ISC/IMS bid is the most technically competent and offers the best chance of an open, transparent, and fairly-run registry.

    It is too bad that they have no chance to win based upon ICANN's clear bias for existing applicants.

    ++Peter
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    Re: List of .org applicants published
    by ANNODOMINI2000 (reversethis-{KU.OC.OOHAY} {ta} {D0002DA}) on Wednesday June 19 2002, @11:14PM (#7301)
    User #3359 Info | http://www.ad2000d.co.uk/
    .ORG will be pretty much a dead duck in a few years

    As it is, fewer and fewer people are registering .ORG domain names

    $385,000 plus all the administrative and re-start-up costs?

    No thanks!
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    Re: List of .org applicants published
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Thursday June 20 2002, @02:28AM (#7308)
    User #2810 Info
    ICANN has now posted 7 of the 11 applications. -g
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    Re: List of .org applicants published
    by cmalamud on Wednesday June 19 2002, @06:52AM (#7272)
    User #3410 Info
    Hi -

    We actually published it Monday morning. Figured the public should get to see it before it went over the wall. If we win the bid, you'll see a totally transparent, rock-solid service.

    Regards,

    Carl
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