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    The Big Picture ISOC to Bid on .org
    posted by tbyfield on Sunday June 02 2002, @02:23AM

    Jamie Love has forwarded a mail to CPT's "Random-bits" mailing list, from Internet Society (ISOC) President and CEO Lynn St. Amour. In it, St. Amour announces that ISOC is teaming up with Afilias to bid on the .org redelegation.

    This is both legitimate and, as Jamie noted in his mail, predictable. But the thicket of connections between ICANN, ISOC, and Afilias is so topologically dense that ICANN had better hurry up and appoint one of its Upstanding Citizens to its Conflicts of Interest committee Real Soon Now. (We hear they're working on that anyway, since the departure of Phil Davidson from the three-person "committee" leaves Karl Auerbach with way too much power.)

    Alternatively, maybe ICANN should just fess up and fold up that committee, because just about everyone who has anything to do with ICANN (with the possible exception of Andy Müller-Maguhn) has ties to ISOC like Gulliver has ties to Lilliputians. Either way, it's hard to imagine a more incestuous reductio ad nauseam of "industry self-regulation" than ICANN "taking" .org from VeriSign and "giving" it -- along with $5-18 million per year -- to ISOC and Afilias.

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    Great Opportunity? Join ISOC now. It is FREE
    by isquat on Sunday June 02 2002, @04:01AM (#6728)
    User #3363 Info | http://i.squ.at/
    Since I guess this is a done deal, I would like to suggest to all and every reader of ICANNWATCH to join ISOC and do it now. Individual membership is FREE, since a little while.

    Or do individual members have no vote in ISOC? Anyone who has read all the changes in election processes care to elucidate? After 15 minutes I still could not make out.

    Join anyway :-)
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    Re: ISOC to Bid on .org
    by PeterBarron (pebarron@hotmail.com) on Sunday June 02 2002, @05:55AM (#6731)
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    Let's see, Afilias couldn't steal .WEB, and they're making a complete joke out of .INFO, so they see the free $5,000,000 and another cash cow and decide to grab for it?

    I think Afilias's technical abilities, and nothing else, disqualify them immediately. Their registry is a shambles, they sacked their back end provider and haven't done a single thing to repair the problems, they've missed all of their service level guarantees, and haven't lived up to their application or contract with ICANN since the first day of operation.

    If ICANN gives .ORG to Afilias, it would just prove what we already know: ability counts for nothing, it's all about being in the game.

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    Re: ISOC to Bid on .org
    by fnord (groy2kNO@SPAMyahoo.com) on Sunday June 02 2002, @03:48AM (#6727)
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    That's not the point. One point I think ted is making is that if those BoD members with ties to ISOC recuse themselves, there may be trouble achieving quorum. If they don't, who's to watch over them? FWIW, ISOC organization members are listed here. As for conspiracy, mebbe not, but one does not enhance competition much by awarding .org to ISOC/Afilias.

    The link above to Jamie Love's post is malformed, it can be found here. -g, ISOC member #1349877

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    Afilias' good job
    by isquat on Sunday June 02 2002, @07:02PM (#6763)
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    "Afilias has done a good job since the Sunrise ended." Sure, they changed the rules so that they could themselves challenge registrations, after first telling everyone that they were not going to check. And now they are selling 17,000 names again for which they already cashed a 5 year registration fee. Clever, very clever.
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