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    Alternate Roots Bugtoaster Calls New.net Plugin Defective
    posted by michael on Sunday November 18 2001, @05:00PM

    Bugtoaster.com, a site that offers a nifty utility for logging and, sometimes, resolving program crashes, has identified the new.net plugin as a source of numerous crashes in Win 98, Win 98se and Win ME. "Vendor contacted via phone/email, no respose" it reports. Bugtoaster's recommendation if it you are suffering from these crashes is thus "to uninstall New.net until this has been repaired" ... if you can.

    It seems the plugin doesn't always want to go away, but new.net offers instructions how to remove enough of it to stop the crashes. Further technical details, said to be accurate as of 11/14/01, are available from the Bugtoaster site

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    Re: Bugtoaster Calls New.net Plugin Defective
    by steve@new.net (SteveC) on Monday November 26 2001, @01:25PM (#3861)
    User #2430 Info | www.new.net
    I want to correct some inaccurate and/or incomplete information that someone culled from BugToaster.com regarding our client software. We were notified of this particular problem on November 8 and responded the same day. Thanks to their detailed reports, we have determined the cause of the bug and fixed the code, and it is in QA. We will release a new version of the client as soon as it passes through final testing (which includes, by the way, BugToaster's software).

    There are actually two separate bugs that account for nearly all of the incidents reported by BugToaster. The reason these particular bugs have gone undetected for so long is that the situations under which they would cause a problem are quite unusual. The only time they appear to occur is when either an install or uninstall of the plug-in has been interrupted. Given that our software typically takes only a few seconds to download, it doesn't seem unusual that we haven't seen this before now. One other situation under which we occasionally see problems is when our files have been corrupted by the subsequent installation of other plug-in software. We can't control what users install on their PCs, but we can diligently follow up on any reported problems. Regardless of the source, we take every bug seriously, and we've worked quickly to fix every problem we know about.

    As for the assertion that our uninstall doesn't completely remove all files, while literally true, is a bit misleading. The only file we leave behind is an Active X remnant that has no effect on the operation of the PC and is similar to the residue of many other programs. In addition, if someone does not reboot after the uninstall as instructed, it may appear that a .dll file is still there, but this will disappear the next time the user reboots. No matter that these are harmless situations, they do create misunderstandings. Accordingly, we are working on changes to the uninstall program to remove these files and will release this functionality in a future build.

    Like every other software product, despite rigorous testing, some bugs creep through. Given the tens of millions of copies of our plug-in that are out there, we are quite pleased at the low volume of support calls and emails we get. And when we do get complaints, we respond immediately, and we have the benefit of being able to update the clients automatically when fixes are available.

    I trust this clears up several misconceptions that perhaps lack of factual information has fueled. Please feel free to email me directly if you have any further questions or concerns.

    Steve Chadima
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    Don't talk so much crap!
    by simon on Tuesday November 20 2001, @02:54AM (#3799)
    User #2982 Info | http://www.nic.pro/

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    Why hate you new.net? any reasons?
    by simon on Monday November 26 2001, @07:35AM (#3858)
    User #2982 Info | http://www.nic.pro/
    any reasons?nic.PRO will be back online soon with FREE sub-domains. Dowload the FREE plug-in at
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