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    Board of Directors Who Represents Whom?
    posted by jon on Wednesday June 13 2001, @03:32PM

    lextext writes "In an article in today's Wired, ICANN's President and its outside counsel go out of their way to marginalize two of the organization's directors, Karl Auerbach and Andy Mueller-Maguhn. (The article comes as a response to another Wired piece from last week in which Mr. Mueller-Maguhn compared the inner workings of ICANN to "the old East Germany.") Both Mr. Auerbach and Mr. Mueller-Maguhn were elected in last year's At Large election and represent North America and Europe, respectively.

    While it's fair to say that Messrs. Auerbach and Mueller-Maguhn often view ICANN's role differently than the other directors and frequently find themselves voting in the minority, the suggestion that they may be unrepresentative of their communities is unfair."



    The article contained this quote:
    "How do you conduct a worldwide election when we can't even conduct one in Florida?" Lynn wondered. "It's a nice notion but very hard to execute. The amount of people who actually voted was minuscule, compared to the number of users on the Internet. There is a concern that they represent a very narrow segment of viewpoints."
    I haven't heard that concern myself, but let's be clear about who represents whom. Here are the current Board members and the number of votes in their favor for the seats they now hold:

    * Vinton G. Cerf (no more than 8)
    Elected by the Protocol Council

    * Alejandro Pisanty (11)
    Elected by the Names Council

    * Amadeu Abril i Abril (10)
    Elected by the Names Council

    * Karl Auerbach (1,738)
    Elected by the At Large for North America

    * Robert Blokzijl (no more than 9)
    Elected by the Address Council

    * Ivan Moura Campos (946)
    Elected by the At Large for Latin America and Carribean

    * Jonathan Cohen (12)
    Elected by the Names Council

    * Philip Davidson (no more than 8)
    Elected by the Protocol Council

    * Frank Fitzsimmons (0)
    Appointed for a 1 year term in 1998; term in office was extended twice. Currently occupies Board seat with no expiration date.

    * Ken Fockler (no more than 9)
    Elected by the Address Council

    * Masanobu Katoh (13,913)
    Elected by the At Large for Asia / Australia / Pacific

    * Hans Kraaijenbrink (0)
    Appointed for a 1 year term in 1998; term in office was extended twice. Currently occupies Board seat with no expiration date.

    * Sang-Hyon Kyong (no more than 9)
    Elected by the Address Council

    * M. Stuart Lynn (0)
    Unelected. Sits on Board ex officio, by virtue of his position as President/CEO.

    * Andy Mueller-Maguhn (5,948)
    Elected by the At Large for Europe

    * Jun Murai (0)
    Appointed for a 1 year term in 1998; term in office was extended twice. Currently occupies Board seat with no expiration date.

    * Nii Quaynor (67)
    Elected by the At Large for Africa

    * Helmut Schink (no more than 8)
    Elected by the Protocol Council

    * Linda S. Wilson (0)
    Appointed for a 1 year term in 1998; term in office was extended twice. Currently occupies Board seat with no expiration date.

    Fitzsimmons, Kraiijenbrink, Murai and Wilson purportedly represent the At Large, but were never elected. How narrow is the segment of viewpoints they represent? Likewise, each of the Directors who was appointed by a Supporting Organization was elected by a council that may or may not be representative of a larger community. The SOs too are very much works in progress.

    So before this idea that Mr. Auerbach, with 1,738 votes in his favor, and Mr. Mueller-Maguhn, with 5,948 votes in his favor, "represent a very narrow segment of viewpoints" gains any traction, it's worthwhile to look at the numbers above.

     
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    Who's the fruitcake with too much time on their ha
    by kodo (binaryloop@nospam.yahoo.com) on Tuesday October 16 2001, @07:22PM (#2976)
    User #21 Info | http://www.paradigm.nu/icann
    If you look at the previous 10 or so comments they all seem to be from the same person.

    Maybe someone like Dave Crocker who was angry because everyone in the world (except Kent and his ICANN buddies) was against him.

    What better way to make yourself feel better and the ICANN board (full of crooks) look better? Go to ICANNWatch and post a bunch of anonymous messages pretending to all be for the ICANN Board!

    When is the last time that you saw this many pro-ICANN supporters post in one place? How many people who read ICANNWatch are against Karl?

    Puhleeeeeeze.
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    Re: Who Represents Whom?
    by 300baud (service at evesnetwork dot com) on Wednesday June 13 2001, @05:16PM (#842)
    User #2869 Info | http://www.evesnetwork.com
    Messrs. Auerbach and Mueller-Maguhn should resign from the ICANN Board.

    I really hope that's meant as humor, at least I find it as funny.

    Yes, the two appear to be black sheep who refuse to follow blindly. That's a *GOOD* thing. Leadership requires that you think for yourself.

    What value is representation in a pseudo government when the representatives don't listen to the voices of the people they are supposed to represent?

    Does having a puppet committee legitimize turning over control of the Internet to a dictatorship?

    You decide! The freedom you lose will be your own.

    300baud
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    Re: Who Represents Whom?
    by kodo (binaryloop@nospam.yahoo.com) on Wednesday June 13 2001, @06:58PM (#844)
    User #21 Info | http://www.paradigm.nu/icann
    1) What does this prove? Obviously you spent some time looking this up and creating these links. But, for what purpose? What are you trying to say?

    2) What about you? Who do you represent? (Anonymous users on message boards everywhere?)

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    Re: Who Represents Whom?
    by kodo (binaryloop@nospam.yahoo.com) on Wednesday June 13 2001, @07:12PM (#845)
    User #21 Info | http://www.paradigm.nu/icann
    Why? Please list some good reasons why you think they should resign. (I know that I shouldn't feed trolls like this.)

    But, I counter your statement by saying that all of the Board Squatters (Fitzsimmons, Kraiijenbrink, Murai and Wilson) should immediately step down and resign their positions instead! Karl and Andy have more of a right to be there than any of them.

    The squatters were originally supposed to serve for a 1 year interim (ie: temporary, non-permanent, transient) position. But, that has been extended indefinitely now. None of the citizens of the US would tolerate a publically elected official who refused to step down after their term had expired! It is outrageous!

    I know that you are probably just trolling for an angry response. But, I don't understand why everyone just skips over the fact that we have 4 Board Members who have openly broke the By-Laws and continue to spit in the face of justice! These squatters should be asked to resign by entire Internet community! (or, the US Department of Commerce if need be)

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